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Hey guys, my first post so ill introduce myself! I just bought a TT yesterday, 2001,1.8 225 from near London. Drove it back and im very very pleased with her,got her at a cheap price too. Makes me wonder why i didn't go for one before!

However! (there is always a but or however!!) she does have a few niggles! The worst being the clutch, Firstly the pedal is stiff, engagement is fine but its stiff to press down and quick shifting is hard to do. Secondly she is slipping at around 4k revs in 5th and 6th.She slips around 500 revs... If i feather the accelerator she doesn't but if i boot it to the floor she does.Other gears seem ok. Is this new clutch time? got a quote from Mr clutch for 569,is this reasonable? is the stiff clutch related to the slipping?

Thank in advance for replies. This forum helped me a lot in getting a TT. hope to help others in the future... :p
 

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If you are replacing the clutch you need to make sure they replace the dual mass flywheel aswell. The write you have got will be without a dmf so you nee to add a few hundred to that pricefor the flywheel and a bit more labor.

I would also use a specialist VW/Audi garage, not Mr clutch.

The clutch on these cars are pretty heavy IMO, so it might just be that you ate used to a light clutch

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Hi mate,thanks for the reply. Yep i understand about maybe getting a better garage to do it. was just looking at average quotes.
So,the clutch is heavy in a TT? i just had a Z3M and it was way lighter than this one and that was supposed to be heavy. I really thought the TT would have a light clutch as i would of thought most of them would have lived in cities.
so the slipping? can it be adjusted?or definitely gone?
 

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I'm afraid I have to disagree with TT-TOM! Sorry. :wink:

The TT clutch isn't overly heavy. Ours is quite heavy and compared to my eurobox company car is very stiff. I asked around and people advised I check it against another TT. Fortunately a friend is a fellow TT owner and I checked theirs in comparison and it was much lighter than ours.

I wouldn't say it is the lightest (certainly not as light as my Mondeo for example), but not too heavy either.

However, unlike yours, our clutch doesn't slip.

I would say you will find the new clutch much lighter. As has been stated earlier in the thread, remember to change the slave cylinder. You'll conflicting advice on whether to change the DMF. Some say do it as a matter of course, others say leave it if it looks/feels OK.

HTH

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joeyd said:
just reading about slave & master cylinders going and they produce heavy clutches and at times slipping. Could this be it?
In a word no.

The clamping force of the clutch comes from the pressure plate, nothing to do with the hydraulic side of the clutch. The only way the hydraulics could cause the clutch to slip is if the slave or master cylinder stuck and did not allow clearance of the release bearing. You'd be able to tell if this was the case as there would be no clearance in the pedal and the clutch would slip worse as soon as you touched the pedal.

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funny you should say that about the clearance of the clutch. not only is it heavy,it seems to have no clearance when you press it down. for example. there is normal travel in the clutch but it engages at the end,so when it is right down to the floor. then the release is stiff and even though the travel is back up is normal, the gear engages straight away. sorry if that doesnt make sense. its hard to explain it!!
 

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TT-Tom is wrong!
The clutch on the TT are NOT heavy at all on a standard car if the peddal is heavy then there's a problem.

I had mine replaced last week and peddal was heavy but not slipping,infact the only problem was the peddal was heavy,in my case the center piece had started to break free from the outer ring that holds the friction plate,the fact that yours is slipping suggests that it about knackered anyway.
Mine clutch kit fitted cost me £321 from Midland VW in Canock but my cars only a 2WD

Aftet I had mine replaced it is now lighter than my wife's cars clutch which has only 1300 miles on it and that's a brand new car!

The master cylinder might well need replacing but could be checked out by who ever fits the clutch at the time and the same goes for the DMF,I was advised that the DMF and master cylinder was absolutely fine and don't need touching.

One other thing DO NOT USE MR CLUTCH!! you will regret it,go to an Indy garage,for the same price you could drive up to Canock,have the master cylinder and clutch replaced and still have money left over.
 

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There must be something wrong with my clutch then. That or my perception of hard is different to everyone else :lol: Just had a go in my mates Corsa VXR and I'd say it was noticeably heavier than that but not by very much.
 

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Hi Tom, very little difference if any, between my TT & my VXR Corsa.
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hey cheers for the replies guys. Iv been driving her most of the day and she seems fine. She is stiff on the clutch pedal still and still slipping at 4ks revs ish. But one thing occurred to me. Iv had clutches go before in my previous cars but this was due to the travel of the clutch pedal just wearing up so high you couldn't really engage it so it slipped. This isnt happening with my TT. gears engage fine and dont slip even when the pedal is depressed a little. Its just on acceleration in 5th and 6th. The pedal travel is normal. Any clues?
 

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Recently had my clutch replaced at Midlands VW, enquired about the DMF and Jody said "if there is no vibration leave it alone"
They could have made more money out of me because they had to remove the DMF to replace my crank end oil seal which I knackered, thus I totally trust their judgement.
 

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Definatly use midlands vw! Great bunch of guys that wont rip you off!
 

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joeyd said:
hey cheers for the replies guys. Iv been driving her most of the day and she seems fine. She is stiff on the clutch pedal still and still slipping at 4ks revs ish. But one thing occurred to me. Iv had clutches go before in my previous cars but this was due to the travel of the clutch pedal just wearing up so high you couldn't really engage it so it slipped. This isnt happening with my TT. gears engage fine and dont slip even when the pedal is depressed a little. Its just on acceleration in 5th and 6th. The pedal travel is normal. Any clues?
could you have a crank seal weeping ? if so then your gear box is out anyway then you can check the clutch and DMF at the same time.

But i still cant get past the bit where the peddal is stiff, as this does indicate that the clutch is wearing or theres an issue,i still think your clutch is buggered.
 

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joeyd said:
hey cheers for the replies guys. Iv been driving her most of the day and she seems fine. She is stiff on the clutch pedal still and still slipping at 4ks revs ish. But one thing occurred to me. Iv had clutches go before in my previous cars but this was due to the travel of the clutch pedal just wearing up so high you couldn't really engage it so it slipped. This isnt happening with my TT. gears engage fine and dont slip even when the pedal is depressed a little. Its just on acceleration in 5th and 6th. The pedal travel is normal. Any clues?
could you have a crank seal weeping ? if so then your gear box is out anyway then you can check the clutch and DMF at the same time.

But i still cant get past the bit where the peddal is stiff, as this does indicate that the clutch is wearing or theres an issue,i still think your clutch is buggered.
I agree with St3v3, I think the clutch is on it's way out. The fact that the pedal is heavy and the clutch bites right at the bottom of the pedal travel are both indications of a clutch that is past its best.
 

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Hey guys. Bit of an update. Took her out just now for a 20mile run. Didn't slip in any gear or under load. Gave her a good old thrashing too!! Just visiting family so will let you know later if she is the same on the way back. Any thoughts in the meantime? She was laid up for around 2monthx before I got her and I immediately did a 230mile journey. Could the lay up of caused something and it's naturally fixed itself?!!
 

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Sounds like dual mass flywheel to me then so you are still looking at replacing the clutch and the associated components anyway.

When a DMF is on its way out the clutch can slip badly then all of a sudden be ok again.
 

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TT-TOM said:
Sounds like dual mass flywheel to me then so you are still looking at replacing the clutch and the associated components anyway.

When a DMF is on its way out the clutch can slip badly then all of a sudden be ok again.
I'm struggling to understand how you came to this assumption??

A DMF failure would give noise and vibration,more noise on tick over but more vibration on clutch use.
Also in some cases the DMF as it breaks up can start to have an effect on the starter motor by the ring gear failing to disengage the flywheel imediately after starting giving noise,it does this by the filings clogging the hearing and sticking to the shaft the gear runs on

As rhe only problems are slip and stiff pedal I don't see how you can point at the DMF.

Tell me I'm wrong but I'm struggling as to your understanding of how a clutch and DMF work.
 

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joeyd said:
Hey guys. Bit of an update. Took her out just now for a 20mile run. Didn't slip in any gear or under load. Gave her a good old thrashing too!! Just visiting family so will let you know later if she is the same on the way back. Any thoughts in the meantime? She was laid up for around 2monthx before I got her and I immediately did a 230mile journey. Could the lay up of caused something and it's naturally fixed itself?!!
it might,there could of been a slight rust build up,the same as you get on brake discs although this would have been clean off almost instantly,unless there was a further contamination somewhere,the springs could also harden up with lack of use this giving a stiff pedal.

It may have been a good idea to give all the info at the beginning befor us trying to help,if only to help you some what.
 
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