CONTITECH or GATES Water Pump & Timing Belt kits are highly rated.

https://www.mister-auto.co.uk/

 

Hi, Welcome to the TTF.
If this is not DIY then let the garage supply the parts, otherwise I would use OEM parts, but Gates appear to be popular & could even be OEM parts. OEM water pumps are still "plastic" but improved from the original.
Make sure you replace the hydraulic damper as well, it's not supplied with the OEM kits.
The stretch bolts are for the engine mounts & should be replaced.
Hoggy.

 

Thanks both for those helpful replies.

I'm going to be letting a local garage do the work but want to pass on the information from here so I get everything that's recommended done at the same time in case they miss anything.

These are the right bolts yeah?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-VW-R ... 3373221830

Thanks

 

Thanks both for those helpful replies.

I'm going to be letting a local garage do the work but want to pass on the information from here so I get everything that's recommended done at the same time in case they miss anything.

These are the right bolts yeah?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-VW-R ... 3373221830

Thanks

Hi, Yes, looks correct.
Hoggy.

 

INA supply the idlers and tensioners for VAG, so I'd like to think the belt in their kit is OEM too.

You want an OEM water pump preferably, the metal impellers can fail the bearings early, that's from a reliable source.

I've fitted Dayco without issues in the past too, but I mainly fit INA kits now, I have one for a TT currently iirc.

 

INA supply the idlers and tensioners for VAG, so I'd like to think the belt in their kit is OEM too.

You want an OEM water pump preferably, the metal impellers can fail the bearings early, that's from a reliable source.

I've fitted Dayco without issues in the past too, but I mainly fit INA kits now, I have one for a TT currently iirc.

£111.79 for the INA kit via https://www.autodoc.co.uk/ina/7277818 - that seem about right?

 

Might be worth getting the garage to price up genuine VAG parts.
When I had the Timing belt on my A4 changed they used VAG parts as the kit was only a tenner more.

 

Might be worth getting the garage to price up genuine VAG parts.
When I had the Timing belt on my A4 changed they used VAG parts as the kit was only a tenner more.

Cheers will ask the garage what they think as they are friends of mine and knowledgeable with VW stuff

 

Did this job a few weeks ago , for my TT in similar circumstances , only 7K miles but 8 years since the last cam belt change .
I went for a Gates kit , as in the UK Gates belts come with some of the Genuine kits .
Complete kit with belt , tensioner pulley, hydraulic damper and water pump was just under £100.
Even though I had the Gates pump on hand I decided to fit a Genuine pump , as has been said they have still have plastic impellers but appear to be sorted now.
You have to be very careful with the engine mount bolts, the large bolts screw into an aluminium mount (which in turn is bolted to the engine block) and it is this torque figure that many people believe the official Audi figure is incorrect i.e far too high.
So high , that many find the thread stripping out of the aluminium mount , before the bolts ever start to stretch.
Look on this forum as there has been much discussion in the past about it, IIRC I did mine up to about 60lbs/ft , with no issues .
The smaller bolts screw into a steel captive thread and these you can torque up to the official Audi figure.
I don't know why the eBay link shows 5 bolts , you only need 4, 2 large and 2 small?
These are the bolts I purchased.......and a pic of the engine mount off my car with the new bolts ready .
N10209605
N10516702

 

This is what I was quoted from my local dealer (excluding VAT). Parts are for a 225, not sure if they're the same as the 180 but someone will know.

Sam.

 

Just received an INA water pump, and it's a very good plastic impeller type, if the pump in this engine I'm sorting is genuine I'll put the pair together for comparison.

 

This is what I was quoted from my local dealer (excluding VAT). Parts are for a 225, not sure if they're the same as the 180 but someone will know.
Sam.

What's the belt dampner for over £100 :?:

Will be interesting to see the water pump comparison too @Amulet banana

 

What's the belt dampner for over £100 :?:

Will be interesting to see the water pump comparison too @Amulet banana

Hi, The hydraulic damper/tensioner maintains the correct tension on the cambelt.
Hoggy

 

Hi, The hydraulic damper/tensioner maintains the correct tension on the cambelt.
Hoggy

Ah ok didn't realise they were that expensive :!:

 

Full Gates timing belt kit including water pump on Ebay (item number 233446994516 )
Discounted until 1/5/20.
Buy it Now price with discount £77.28 !
Just bought one myself. Not leaving it there at that price.
2 more available.

Make sure you add the discount voucher ( PERCENT20) before you pay.

 

Full Gates timing belt kit including water pump on Ebay (item number 233446994516 )
Discounted until 1/5/20.
Buy it Now price with discount £77.28 !
Just bought one myself. Not leaving it there at that price.
2 more available.

Make sure you add the discount voucher ( PERCENT20) before you pay.

Yes that is a good price. My mate can usually get VAG prices at trade discount for me etc but he can't get me a price until tomorrow so not sure whether to get this and then he can just get the others bits :?

 

Full Gates timing belt kit including water pump on Ebay (item number 233446994516 )
Discounted until 1/5/20.
Buy it Now price with discount £77.28 !
Just bought one myself. Not leaving it there at that price.
2 more available.

Make sure you add the discount voucher ( PERCENT20) before you pay.

That's brilliant value.
The same kit I used , can totally recommend it .

 

Cheers for alerting me and others to that deal!

I have ordered that eBay one for that price as I can send it back if my guy says it's not worth using as he did mention something about the VAG one coming with everything together but I'm sure he won't mind using that one.

 

Ive just been quoted £399 all inc with my local indy using VAG oem parts.......so which kit is better....Gates or VAG??

 

Ive just been quoted £399 all inc with my local indy using VAG oem parts.......so which kit is better....Gates or VAG??

Does this include the hydraulic damper?
They aren't normally included in the Genuine kits, and really need to be replaced each time the belt is done .
Gates are OEM suppliers , at least in the UK.
This is the damper .....the leaking factory one that came out of my car when I did this job last month .

 

mmmm, dunno is the short answer, so I will call them in the morning!

 

The Genuine price for the damper is around £100 (a crazy price ) , the Gates kits (amongst others ) include this.
Really recommend changing it , if that damper fails then bye bye engine, it's this damper that applies tension to the tensioner pulley.....
My car has done 64K miles from new and previously had a belt change in 2012 at 57K miles , when I did the job last month I found a good quality cam belt on there (Contitech) that looked as new but the 2003 damper was still there , and leaking .
Many garages don't replace the damper as a matter of course .
IMHO it's false economy not to replace it.

 

Kit on Ebay includes damper going from the picture and item description.

 

Kit on Ebay includes damper going from the picture and item description.

It does include the damper , that's why it's such good value .
Like I said , that's the kit I used (although I did use a Genuine water pump instead of the supplied Gates one) and it fitted perfectly .

 

Full Gates timing belt kit including water pump on Ebay (item number 233446994516 )
Discounted until 1/5/20.
Buy it Now price with discount £77.28 !
Just bought one myself. Not leaving it there at that price.
2 more available.

Make sure you add the discount voucher ( PERCENT20) before you pay.

Some of the buyers of this kit wrote in the review that it was delivered with a plastic water pump propeller, not with a metal propeller as shown on the photo