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Hi all, going to service and change the haldex oil DIY during the winter months whilst the car is sorn, I have read somewhere that the oil needs to be warmed up before draining? is this correct or is it okay just to drain cold whilst in the garage.
I have watched a few videos and people just seem to drain whith no mention of warming up.
 
#2 ·
Never heard of it being a prerequisite for Haldex draining, sure - for engine oil it’s beneficial to drain when warmed up a bit so it less viscous, but cold draining should be fine.
 
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Doesn't need to be but like any oil-based fluids in the car they tend to drain more quickly and completely when warm as opposed to cold, along with helping to "flow out" contaminants along with them. Especially compared to a "cold" alternative = winter temperatures. Indoor room temperature probably not a big deal, even for motor oil.

You should be fine TBH, I would try to make sure the temperature of the new fluid you pump in is at least a room temperature though. Of course it will cool quickly as it's pumped into a cold case but there's really no temperature specified to get a proper fill level (unlike say the DSG and also many ATs as well), but we can probably assume around 10-20C is probably good plus will make pumping easier.
 
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I didn't warm up my Haldex, and didn't have any issues - though, admittedly, I did this in August in the Southeastern US.

If you have a Gen 2 Haldex, note that there's a tool specifically made for removing the filter that makes the job a lot easier. I did the service on my TTRS (Gen 4 Haldex), and am preparing to do it on my 3.2 Roadster (Gen 2 Haldex). The CTA Tools 8766 wrench is available in lots of places here in the states, and I imagine it must be available in the UK as well. I haven't used it - yet - but the guy at my shop recommended getting one.
 
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There are a lot of counterfeits out there and even some of the aftermarkets (like the Vaico) are not correct. I've no idea if you got a fake one or poor aftermarket but just a heads up to all on the Haldex filters.

All the recommended places tend to be in the UK and probably where I've bought most of the filters for my various changes over the years--even shipped overseas the prices and availability seem to be better.

The usual good places to get them:

Also awdcarparts (located in Poland) BorgWarner - oficjalny sklep are very good. As per this thread I made earlier had a really good experience with them and they actually gave me the pump o-rings I didn't even order. I ordered from their eBay store but seems they have a website going now at the above link.
 
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As @TT'sRevenge suggests, haldexparts is a great choice for sure, since you're in the UK. I wanted to buy their Haldex kit, but they don't ship to the US.
Hmm seems like Haldex Parts does still advertise "worldwide shipping" but Haldex Repairs does say they no longer ship internationally:

Haldex Repairs said:
We used to, but due to experiencing many problems with our international couriers, and the extra labour and time needed to prepare and dispatch these orders, we have decided to stop offering international shipping.
We do plan on offering international shipping again in the future, and when we do, we will update this page.
So they are out I guess, for ppl outside UK anyway.

For what it's worth, the filter that leaked was a Febi part, and the one I replaced it with - which has been no problem - was Vaico.
Ah I see. Vaico is often guilty of selling various versions of parts at the same time--like a discount tier usually made in China and then a better tier made in Germany/Europe, etc. I know the one they sell on FCP, the picture at least is indicative of the "incorrect type" (because they have the spring on them, at least as pictured on FCP's site). But yeah they may have either updated it or they have another version that is better.

Anyway good it's fixed either way. On your next change though, highly recommend getting a genuine one as it seems there really aren't great substitutes out there in general.
 
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