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ross_t_boss said:
ChadW said:
Yep it would kick out at the back more just like my old crappy BMW 320d did.
Keep Dynamic mode for empty roundabouts and car parks then :p
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Haha yep it was only doing it when starting off at some lights on slope on an untreated road btw not whilst driving.
 
Of course the holy grail is AWD + Winters, ground clearance becomes a problem though when it gets a bit deep![/quote]

Wholly agree, best combination.
 
ChadW said:
Yep it would kick out at the back more just like my old crappy BMW 320d did. Was quite gutted with it then realised it might be worth changing the drive select settings.
Mine did that this morning when exiting a roundabout. Luckily doing around 15 mph. Fronts lost a bit of grip, torque to the back....oops. Probably only stepped out a foot or so but felt like miles.

Never thought of taking it out of dynamic!
 
Gren said:
ChadW said:
Yep it would kick out at the back more just like my old crappy BMW 320d did. Was quite gutted with it then realised it might be worth changing the drive select settings.
Mine did that this morning when exiting a roundabout. Luckily doing around 15 mph. Fronts lost a bit of grip, torque to the back....oops. Probably only stepped out a foot or so but felt like miles.

Never thought of taking it out of dynamic!
This therefore begs the question, that even with 'spirited' driving in the dry, is it not better on most occasions to have the quattro system set to auto rather than dynamic?
 
jhoneyman said:
carrock said:
A 2wd car with winter tyres is far better than a Quattro on summer tyres in snowy or ice conditions
Have to 100% disagree here
A FWD with winters tyres will beast an AWD with summers. I see guys in the big 4x4s driving like cocks as soon as the snows comes out. Blasting along in the snow covered outside lane on the motorway etc. As soon as something unexpected comes along they are headed for a world of pain.

Ive been driving my wife Golf GTD with winters on for the last few days. This thing is unstoppable, the more snow there is the more grip it has. Last night I went up a hill that nobody else could get up. There were loads of cars abandoned at the bottom including range rovers etc. The Golf wheels slipped a bit but pretty much just went straight up, probably to the shock of people watching.

Winters also have a degree of grip on ice. My road gets icy all the time. Really bad like an ice rink. The car will find grip even when its almost impossible to walk on. I dont know how they do it, its like witchcraft.

A TT with quattro is a decent winter steer, even on summer tyres but its not even close to any car wearing proper winter rubber.
 
They mostly have a much softer rubber compound and sidewalls. Not so great for ultimate high speed grip, but great in freezing conditions. Think how rubber reacts if you chuck it in your freezer. It loses a lot of its flexible properties.
 
Number86 said:
They mostly have a much softer rubber compound and sidewalls. Not so great for ultimate high speed grip, but great in freezing conditions. Think how rubber reacts if you chuck it in your freezer. It loses a lot of its flexible properties.
Very true. This morning the tyre temp on the fronts was -5C and normally by the time I get to work in 10mins they are up to 20C. This morning they only made it to 5C
 
Mr TTS said:
A FWD with winters tyres will beast an AWD with summers. I see guys in the big 4x4s driving like cocks as soon as the snows comes out. Blasting along in the snow covered outside lane on the motorway etc. As soon as something unexpected comes along they are headed for a world of pain.

Ive been driving my wife Golf GTD with winters on for the last few days. This thing is unstoppable, the more snow there is the more grip it has. Last night I went up a hill that nobody else could get up. There were loads of cars abandoned at the bottom including range rovers etc. The Golf wheels slipped a bit but pretty much just went straight up, probably to the shock of people watching.

Winters also have a degree of grip on ice. My road gets icy all the time. Really bad like an ice rink. The car will find grip even when its almost impossible to walk on. I dont know how they do it, its like witchcraft.

A TT with quattro is a decent winter steer, even on summer tyres but its not even close to any car wearing proper winter rubber.
Agreed!
Funny how many people will hail 4WD as if snow is now no longer a factor! Same thing goes for "modern intelligent traction control" or "a well balanced chassis".
None of those things matter if you're driving frozen solid summer tires. :roll:
 
I have been thinking about fitting winter tyre's to mine, does anyone else do this? if so do you have spare alloys in your garage and replace the whole wheel or just the tyre's fitted to your normal wheels?
 
psglas said:
This provides some good evidence. It's all about the tyres.

Yep quattro or not I had to take it really steady this morning on some untreated roads. Low profile Bridgestone summer tyres were not great.
 
archieatkins said:
I have been thinking about fitting winter tyre's to mine, does anyone else do this? if so do you have spare alloys in your garage and replace the whole wheel or just the tyre's fitted to your normal wheels?
Yup, done it since my Mark II days. In fact it's the same alloys and tyres from the mark II.

In the summer I run with 20" alloys + summers tyres. In the winter it's down to 18" alloys and winter tyres.

I keep whatever isn't on the car in the garage.

I used to just change the tyres but some said it could ruin them. How, I don't know.

18" alloys are genuine Audi and purchased off ebay.
 
Very interesting to hear everyone's thoughts. This is my second TT Quattro and probably my last :( Before then I drove a Range Rover Sport. I took great delight yesterday morning when my neighbour that laughs at me in my TT came down in his Range Rover slipped at the corner. Thought he took the corner a bit to fast just missed the drystone **** . Me in my little TT was ok , well until I came to the big drift across the road . Just took it slow so all was ok. Will be glad when the snow does go away though.
Angela
 
It's All wheel DRIVE, both types have four wheel breaking... so unless you are trying to get to 60 faster in the snow :roll:
Difference will be when you lose traction on the front.
 
Omychron said:
jhoneyman said:
carrock said:
A 2wd car with winter tyres is far better than a Quattro on summer tyres in snowy or ice conditions
Have to 100% disagree here
Disagree all you want, he's right.

And the main factor is tires, more so than a 4WD system, ESP,... Nothing beats grip.
Yes, he is right. I parked up my TTS on Friday after nipping out at lunch time and nearly binning it during a blizzard. Traction is OK and grip better than most cars, but even the Quattro isn't going to give you bags of grip on summer tyres. So rather than drive 50 miles at 25mph, I took one of the work's vans for the drive home. All our vans and trucks are fitted with winter tyres and the level of grip on snow, ice and very cold (wet) roads is night and day better than my TTS on summer rubber. Fact.

Must say, it was great fun passing all sorts of 4x4's that were struggling in the snow on Friday. Little did they know :lol:
 
My TTRS had fairly good traction in the snow but stopping was another issue altogether. Summer tyres are shit in the snow, no matter how many wheels are driven, summer tyres won't touch winters in the snow or even come close.
 
I have Bridgestones S001.

Hard acceleration on the RS had me fish tailing and braking is scarily poor in the cold weather (had to brake hard due to someone switching lanes to left when indicating right ABS working overtime!).

Wet traction is surprisingly poor as well under hard acceleration in first.

I'm surprised that wet transaction was so much better on my MK2 RS.

I'm blaming this all on the tyres.

I know they are summer tires BUT these appear much worse for me than the last generation RE50, which l was satisfied with.
 
I had the a terrible time, but solved it. My 2021 TT was all over the place in the snow with the OEM then the Continental DWS tires. I ended up downsizing to 18" rims to get taller sidewalls and installed the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires. Now I get better traction in rain and snow than my Silverado while keeping the fun factor year round. They also carry a V rating, so as long as I keep it under 149 mph I can keep them on in the summer too. Now if I can just find a way to get remote start so the common problem of the window getting frozen up preventing the door from opening, winter would stop being a problem in it.
 
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