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Forgot to update, I ended up using these to get rid of the error caused by both the no plate light cam unit and new led unit on the other side:


They work, but, they got got AF! I didn’t realise until after holding one and reading up they do get ratger got - too hot to hold.

I found a place in the lid away from wires, and cable tied to metal to help disperse heat. Not my ideal solution but easy to revert back to factory, as no original connectors spliced.

In practice, the camera is stealth, but with the bootlid shut it obscures the top half of the camera image. Not a major problem as I only wanted it to check reversing distance from an object once already parked.

Cheers.
 
@pcbbc

Due to the chip shortage, i've decided to just try to add a reverse camera to my RNS-E. I bought a camera off of aliexpress, and have just downloaded the "Elm" build of your RNS-E firmware.

Will be working on this install once the temps increase here, I just wanted to give a heads up, and a shoutout again to @pcbbc for the awesome work.

Need to figure out where exactly to connect the backup cam to the RNS-E, so will be doing more research on that while I await for the temps to increase.

Cheers!
 
@pcbbc

Due to the chip shortage, i've decided to just try to add a reverse camera to my RNS-E. I bought a camera off of aliexpress, and have just downloaded the "Elm" build of your RNS-E firmware.

Will be working on this install once the temps increase here, I just wanted to give a heads up, and a shoutout again to @pcbbc for the awesome work.

Need to figure out where exactly to connect the backup cam to the RNS-E, so will be doing more research on that while I await for the temps to increase.

Cheers!
How did your install go and which canbus converter and camera combination did you end up purchasing? Did it all work out okay?
 
How did your install go and which canbus converter and camera combination did you end up purchasing? Did it all work out okay?
I haven't done it yet, I ended up just buying an Xtrons HU (which I am currently installing), and prior to that had bought a backup cam off aliexpress, which will be a direct plug and play into the Xtrons, so no converter craziness needed, just feed the wires thru and plug in directly. I'll probably end up selling my RNS-E
 
@pcbbc

Sanity Check...
I am running Elm firmware for North America (Jan 2022) on a 193 PU without an RFSL connection. I understand your firmware handles the detection of the reverse signal from CANBUS. I received my backup camera converter. The wiring looks pretty straightforward (Connect R, G, B, Ground, & Sync). I am going to try out different cameras from Amazon, to see what works best. On the coding, I should only need to make one quick change with VCDS?
Open Address 37: Navigation / Adaptation / Channel: 004 / Value: 1 (for Back-Up Camera installed)*

Is that really all there is to it?

* Ross-Tech's Wiki says that the value for "Back-Up Camera installed" is 2. I will try it both ways to see which is successful. Audi Radio/Navigation System (RNS-E) - Ross-Tech Wiki
 
Yes, with updated firmware that is all that is required for vehicles that supply reverse over CANBUS. RFSL input required for older legacy vehicles without CANBUS reverse notification.

There are several coding values on channel 4 for different types of camera. The help in VCDS gives more options than the RossTech website, which is incomplete.
1 is for Lamborghini type camera, which does not require extra CANBUS module.
2/3 is for camera with external module which overlays steering direction guide lines.

coding of Lamborghini camera (1) used to be disabled in NA firmwares except with vehicle type also coded as Lambo. Probably why they didn’t mention it on the website. Lamborghini mode now re-enabled in latest NA firmware from my website.
 
Yes, with updated firmware that is all that is required for vehicles that supply reverse over CANBUS. RFSL input required for older legacy vehicles without CANBUS reverse notification.

There are several coding values on channel 4 for different types of camera. The help in VCDS gives more options than the RossTech website, which is incomplete.
1 is for Lamborghini type camera, which does not require extra CANBUS module.
2/3 is for camera with external module which overlays steering direction guide lines.

coding of Lamborghini camera (1) used to be disabled in NA firmwares except with vehicle type also coded as Lambo. Probably why they didn’t mention it on the website. Lamborghini mode now re-enabled in latest NA firmware from my website.
Awesome!
Thank you for the information, fantastic support, and amazing firmware! I have a test camera on the way. But, I have one more intake to walnut shell blast before I can dig in. I will provide a little feedback soon.
;)(y)
 
Yes, that’s the coding screen. Thanks Swiss.

Although you don’t need to code the TV adapter to be able to use a reversing camera. TV module coding only needed if you want the TV/AV input to appear on the media screen. For example for use with a car PC or DVD player.

No need to have TV/AV even enabled, or even present, just for a camera. Although of course a lot of people do use the IMA adapter to do the composite to RGB conversion necessary for the Lambo type reversing camera. But if you only want camera and aren’t interested in AV, you can use a cheaper CVBS to RGB adapter and cut out the need for the expensive IMA adapter.
 
@pcbbc @SwissJetPilot

Thanks, Guys!

My goals are very simple - I only need a backup camera. So, I am attempting to test with a very inexpensive unit from AliExpress (less than $40 USD). The connector is incorrect (26-Pin Connector) and the unit only claims to work with RNS510 and RCD510 units. However, a lot of the fancier ($$$) units that work with those two units also advertise compatibility with RNSE. The RNS510 also supports 800 x 480 resolution, the same as my RNSE (193 PU). ...I'm gonna give it a shot.

While I did purchase a camera from Amazon, I do not have high hopes that it will work properly. I may have to play with a few different cameras before I am successful.
 
SUCCESS!!!

For a grand total of about $75 USD, I have a working CVBS-RGBS Converter and compatible backup camera for my RNSE. While I have yet to fully install it, I did connect all the cables as a POC and ensure there was no flickering or image quality issues.

//NAVIGATION UNIT INFORMATION
Hardware Information: RNS-E PU US
Hardware Part Number: 8J0 035 193 F
Firmware Version: SW 0330 (Elm) [courtesy of @pcbbc ]
Firmware Download: RNS-E Firmware | Home

//PRODUCT INFORMATION
*** CVBS-RGBS CONVERTER
Product Link: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802933201910.html
Product Vendor: AliExpress (LHSYJ Professional Autoparts)
Product Model: chev0001
Product Documentation: “chev0001”的搜索结果 – 产品电子说明书
Cost: $38.90 USD

This CVBS-RGBS Converter was purchased from AliExpress. It was designed to convert signals for RNS510 and RCD510 Headunits and has an integrated 26-Pin Connector that is plug-and-play compatible with those models. There are very few official RNSE Converters available on the market. This product only claims to work with RNS510 and RCD510 units. However, a lot of the fancier ($$$) units that work with those two units also advertise compatibility with RNSE. This model was available for ~$40 USD, including shipping. After removing the pins from the 26-Pin Connector, I assembled them directly into the 32-Pin Connector at the back of the RNSE and plugged it all in. It really was that easy!

*** CVBS Camera
Product Link: https://amzn.to/3UEsgZz
Product Vendor: Jansite
Product Model: Backup View Camera P026
Product Documentation: It's total shite!
Cost: $21.99 USD

This was the first camera I tried. It said it was compatible with CVBS by default and it worked with a nice clean image. The camera comes with several different colored loops that you cut to enable different functions/features. When the time for installation comes, I will be looking at cutting the GREEN LOOP to enable guidelines. The provided "manual" is a one-sided sheet of paper. I am amazed that they put so many different words on the paper and it basically says nothing. For better product details, you only need to read the Amazon listing. On a related note, I did try to find more detailed information from the manufacturer. When I visited Jansite's website, there was absolutely no information at all on the Backup View Camera P026. It was like they never even made it.

//ASSEMBLY
The connector on the CVBS-RGBS Converter is incorrect (26-Pin Connector) for our application. I figured out the pin combinations from an RNS510 and converted them to our RNSE Application. Details can be found in the chart below. The pins are removable and are the same type that fits into the 32-Pin RNSE Connector. You only need to remove the pins from the provided 26-Pin Connector and install them into the 32-Pin Connector. After that, you need to run power and the yellow RCA line to your camera. Once you have it all connected, you make one configuration change in VCDS, which is listed below. There are creative ways to integrate the camera into your vehicle. They are detailed on the many, MANY pages of this thread. However, that's really all there is to set this up!

//26-PIN (FOR RNS510/RCD510) TO 32-PIN (FOR RNSE) CONVERSION
26-PIN/12 - [WHITE - IN SYNC] - 32-PIN/15
26-PIN/13 - [GREEN - IN GREEN] - 32-PIN/16
26-PIN/24 - [BLACK - IN GROUND] - 32-PIN/30
26-PIN/25 - [YELLOW - IN BLUE] - 32-PIN/31
26-PIN/26 - [RED - IN RED] - 32-PIN/32

//VCDS CODING ADDITIONS (FOR NA FIRMWARES)
Address: 37-Navigation
Adaptation: 10
Channel: 004
Value: 1 - Back-Up Camera installed (Lamborghini Style)

Image
 
Excellent! Well done!

Always nice to hear a success story, and see pictures of the result. Although some uncharitable individuals might pull you up on….
…no image quality issues
🤭

Also, for anyone else reading this, note my previous comment about requiring firmware update to my custom firmware to be able to enable reverse camera type 1 (Lambo) on NA RNSE. EU firmwares have no such restriction. Firmware update still needed for reverse gear detection on TT 8J (both EU and NA) and other models that use reverse over CANBUS (instead of physical RFSL input).

Enjoy!
 
Excellent! Well done!

Always nice to hear a success story, and see pictures of the result. Although some uncharitable individuals might pull you up on….

🤭

Also, for anyone else reading this, note my previous comment about requiring firmware update to my custom firmware to be able to enable reverse camera type 1 (Lambo) on NA RNSE. EU firmwares have no such restriction. Firmware update still needed for reverse gear detection on TT 8J (both EU and NA) and other models that use reverse over CANBUS (instead of physical RFSL input).

Enjoy!
It was a warm one today and I was not at 100%. The Tiguan is still in pieces. I was walnut blasting the intake. While I did manage to find some missing horses, I also managed to locate a coolant leak on the back side of the alternator bracket [that holds the Oil Filter and the Oil Cooler (EA888.1)]. Since that car still has 1.5 months remaining on the warranty, I am going to let someone else repair that bit. She is also getting a new Water Pump, Thermostat, Coolant Temp Sensor, Oil Cooler, Main Drive Belt, and Tensioner. When done, it is going to drive like a new car!

Updated my post...
I put some hardware details on my NAV unit and the location of your firmware. I was driving my daughter to work and had one of those "DUH, why didn't you put that in the post!?" moments. I want to make sure I have concentrated all the necessary bits of my experience/contribution into one post. I want to make sure others that follow in our footsteps have easy-to-follow road maps.

On image quality...
I was actually kind of impressed. The Tiguan has an RNS315. I was expecting a shitty picture of that quality. I got much more than I bargained for when it lit up and showed the video. For $75 USD, I am happy and also not in the dog house with my wife. ...and yes, I know I look like a clown in the pic. If I don't make an ass out of myself, someone else will. LOL! 🤡

On EU Firmwares...
@pcbbc To clarify, assuming you already have the EU Version of Elm installed, all you have to do is connect the hardware and you are all set? What if it is Genuine VAG hardware instead of aftermarket?
 
SUCCESS!!!

For a grand total of about $75 USD, I have a working CVBS-RGBS Converter and compatible backup camera for my RNSE. While I have yet to fully install it, I did connect all the cables as a POC and ensure there was no flickering or image quality issues.

//NAVIGATION UNIT INFORMATION
Hardware Information: RNS-E PU US
Hardware Part Number: 8J0 035 193 F
Firmware Version: SW 0330 (Elm) [courtesy of @pcbbc ]
Firmware Download: RNS-E Firmware | Home

//PRODUCT INFORMATION
*** CVBS-RGBS CONVERTER
Product Link: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802933201910.html
Product Vendor: AliExpress (LHSYJ Professional Autoparts)
Product Model: chev0001
Product Documentation: “chev0001”的搜索结果 – 产品电子说明书
Cost: $38.90 USD

This CVBS-RGBS Converter was purchased from AliExpress. It was designed to convert signals for RNS510 and RCD510 Headunits and has an integrated 26-Pin Connector that is plug-and-play compatible with those models. There are very few official RNSE Converters available on the market. This product only claims to work with RNS510 and RCD510 units. However, a lot of the fancier ($$$) units that work with those two units also advertise compatibility with RNSE. This model was available for ~$40 USD, including shipping. After removing the pins from the 26-Pin Connector, I assembled them directly into the 32-Pin Connector at the back of the RNSE and plugged it all in. It really was that easy!

*** CVBS Camera
Product Link: https://amzn.to/3UEsgZz
Product Vendor: Jansite
Product Model: Backup View Camera P026
Product Documentation: It's total shite!
Cost: $21.99 USD

This was the first camera I tried. It said it was compatible with CVBS by default and it worked with a nice clean image. The camera comes with several different colored loops that you cut to enable different functions/features. When the time for installation comes, I will be looking at cutting the GREEN LOOP to enable guidelines. The provided "manual" is a one-sided sheet of paper. I am amazed that they put so many different words on the paper and it basically says nothing. For better product details, you only need to read the Amazon listing. On a related note, I did try to find more detailed information from the manufacturer. When I visited Jansite's website, there was absolutely no information at all on the Backup View Camera P026. It was like they never even made it.

//ASSEMBLY
The connector on the CVBS-RGBS Converter is incorrect (26-Pin Connector) for our application. I figured out the pin combinations from an RNS510 and converted them to our RNSE Application. Details can be found in the chart below. The pins are removable and are the same type that fits into the 32-Pin RNSE Connector. You only need to remove the pins from the provided 26-Pin Connector and install them into the 32-Pin Connector. After that, you need to run power and the yellow RCA line to your camera. Once you have it all connected, you make one configuration change in VCDS, which is listed below. There are creative ways to integrate the camera into your vehicle. They are detailed on the many, MANY pages of this thread. However, that's really all there is to set this up!

//26-PIN (FOR RNS510/RCD510) TO 32-PIN (FOR RNSE) CONVERSION
26-PIN/12 - [WHITE - IN SYNC] - 32-PIN/15
26-PIN/13 - [GREEN - IN GREEN] - 32-PIN/16
26-PIN/24 - [BLACK - IN GROUND] - 32-PIN/30
26-PIN/25 - [YELLOW - IN BLUE] - 32-PIN/31
26-PIN/26 - [RED - IN RED] - 32-PIN/32

//VCDS CODING ADDITIONS
Address: 37-Navigation
Adaptation: 10
Channel: 004
Value: 1 - Back-Up Camera installed (Lamborghini Style)

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I've been reading this thread with some interest.
@ ryguy I bought the same hardware as yourself, did the mod on the 32 pin plug from the 26 pin plug and contacted pcbbc.co.uk for his firmware which has now been installed along with the change(s) using VCDS as shown by SwissJetPilot so I get a blank screen when car is put into reverse now which pcbbc says is correct. (Auto box) The CVBS-RGBS Converter has a 12 volt red (with fuse connection) and ground black (fork)
So my question is where did you pick up the 12v feed for the camera please?
 
I've been reading this thread with some interest.
@ ryguy I bought the same hardware as yourself, did the mod on the 32 pin plug from the 26 pin plug and contacted pcbbc.co.uk for his firmware which has now been installed along with the change(s) using VCDS as shown by SwissJetPilot so I get a blank screen when car is put into reverse now which pcbbc says is correct. (Auto box) The CVBS-RGBS Converter has a 12 volt red (with fuse connection) and ground black (fork)
So my question is where did you pick up the 12v feed for the camera please?
@Pursang Hoping to avoid the rainy cold season, I am waiting until this summer to install. You can tap power from the reverse lights. Or, if I am not mistaken, you could also run power off Terminal 15 (Switched Ignition). If you are running the firmware from @pcbbc , it shouuuuuld* (please correct me if incorrect) automatically shift to the backup camera signal when the RNS-E detects that the vehicle has been shifted into Reverse (R). Although the CVBS Adapter documentation is in Chinese (and the English translated bits are quite terrible), it has a few graphics with different install options. These will prove useful as you wrap your head around the layout and plan for your backup camera installation.
 
@Pursang Hoping to avoid the rainy cold season, I am waiting until this summer to install. You can tap power from the reverse lights. Or, if I am not mistaken, you could also run power off Terminal 15 (Switched Ignition). If you are running the firmware from @pcbbc , it shouuuuuld* (please correct me if incorrect) automatically shift to the backup camera signal when the RNS-E detects that the vehicle has been shifted into Reverse (R). Although the CVBS Adapter documentation is in Chinese (and the English translated bits are quite terrible), it has a few graphics with different install options. These will prove useful as you wrap your head around the layout and plan for your backup camera installation.
Thank you for posting back @ ryguy. I did email pcbbc and he suggested T15 which I tried and it worked perfectly, however once disconnected I only got a "blue screen " when put in to reverse. I didn't need to connect to the reverse light cable. Car on a slight slope upwards behind our gates, hence camera looking down. Very happy with ALL the information and help from this forum, thanks guys!!
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I did email pcbbc and he suggested T15 which I tried and it worked perfectly, however once disconnected I only got a "blue screen " when put in to reverse. I didn't need to connect to the reverse light cable.
You said you didn't end up using the reverse power; and, T15 ended up giving you a blue screen. Which method did you end up using? I assume T15. Did you end up resolving your "blue screen" issue?
 
You said you didn't end up using the reverse power; and, T15 ended up giving you a blue screen. Which method did you end up using? I assume T15. Did you end up resolving your "blue screen" issue?
Sorry my bad ryguy. T15 to power CVBS-RGBS Converter camera worked when selecting reverse gear. I did power from the reverse light before using T15 and that gave me a blue screen and that's when I contacted pcbbc for assistance.
 
Just cross posting to this thread, in case anyone missed it…

Beta firmware for combined OPS and camera mode is now available.
With this firmware the OPS graphic will be overlayed on top of the reverse camera view without it being necessary to install the R8 camera module.
All that is necessary is a basic CVBS to RGBS converter, a 3rd party camera, and the the following coding…

Coding Instructions

OPS: ON
  • 0x?xxxx: Treble Speaker Diagnosis / Optical Parking Aid
    • +1 = Front Treble Speaker Diagnosis inactive
    • +2 = Optical Parking Aid installed/active
Camera: Lamborghini mode
Adaptation Channel 004 = 1
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