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How To: Replacing Window Aperture Seal Weather Strip

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#1 ·
The door weather strip sits on the outside of the door window and it forms part of the exterior seal that helps to reduce the amount of water that can run down the window glass and into the inside of the door.
I say "reduce" because water will always run down the inside of the door. It's part of the design, but during my investigation into water ingress, I found my seal to be inadequate.

The weather strip is part #8 in the diagram:

Image


Part numbers are:
8J0837478C (right)
8J0837477C (left)

Prices are currently about £60 each from Audi.

As per the diagram, it is screwed into the car door door with a T15 screw, #10 on the diagram and is part number:

N10642801

7 screws are needed per door.

Why would you need to replace the weather strip?
Well, over time the velvet like coating that meets the glass can wear down and become flat, producing an inferior water seal.

Here's a pic of my old one (left) vs a new one (right). You can see that the wear on the velvet like coating has worn on mine:

Image


The other thing that is different is the protrusion of the worn part. On mine it is less. It has lost flexibility and memory. The new one pushes back into its place with force and would be pushing onto the glass in a more firm manner.

Fitting the weather strip is not a simple task.
As per Ian's video (
) you need the door card off and access to the glass clamp screws for removing the glass.

When doing this task you may also wish to consider cleaning all around the seals and washing the glass (it will have a dirt line which creates the mess some people have when they wind their windows up.

Steps:

  1. Leave the window in the up position.
  2. Remove the door card (yeah, one line for that one :LOL:).
  3. With the door card off, remove the large access panel/shield to get access to the glass clamp bolt (I think 12mm). Completely remove this bolt as it goes right through the glass (special hole in the glass).
  4. Remove the top bung (closest to the wing mirror) to get access to the other glass clamp which is a hefty torx screw (t30 I think). This screw stays in place!! Just loosen it!
  5. Release the glass from the clamps. It just pulls up and out. You may have to get your hand into the inside of the door to help wiggle the furthest clamp off, as it can be a little stuck with age.
  6. After the glass is out, remove the plastic triangle on the inside of the door next to the wing mirror but inside. Just prise it at the bottom then push up at the same time (t has a slot where it sits on the metal lip that is exposed out of the rubber seal).
    Image


  7. Removing this inside triangle will reveal more access to pull up the rubber gater slightly. Under the gater is a torx screw that will release the outside plastic triangle.

    Image


    Image


  8. With both inside and outside plastic triangles removed, you can now remove the aperture rubber seal. It pulls up, but it works best if you reach inside the door (long arm needed) to remove the seal from its place (just pull it). It is pushed into a recess that runs down inside the door. Removing it along the door edge is easy, just pull up. Do not pull it off at the side edge of the door (where the door lock is) because it connects onto the glued on part. You just need it out of the way.
    In the picture below, mine has been removed. You can see in the middle of the picture is the recess that the rubber seal sits in when it runs into the inside of the door (for supporting the window glass as it lowers into the door):
    Image


  9. Once the rubber is out of the way, you will see the 7 torx screws that hold the weather strip to the door.
    Most of mine were rusty, but one was really bad and took some effort to get it out.

    Image
The process to put it all back together is the exact reverse.
A couple of points I found:
  • The seal that runs down into the inside of the door needs triple checking that it is in place properly. It seats into the recess and the seal is designed to protect the glass from the metal. If the seal is not seated correctly/fully, then it causes the window regulator too mush strain and it cuts out (does not fully raise/lower the window).
    It took me a while to figure out why mine was not working properly.
    If it is not seated correctly it can also cause a lot of window squeal during lowering.

  • The quality of the weather strip I got was not great. The eBay seller was really helpful and they said the pair I bought were from Audi direct. They looked OK, but on fitting there was a slight deformity right at the tip of the seal that points to the front of the car. I had to actually trim some excess rubber off a little rubber tab to make it fit as designed. I don't know if Audi would have done such a great job...

  • The horizontal position of the weather strip affects how the front lip sits (at the front of the door). Too far backward and the lip is distorted as it has a small tab that needs to fit into the line of the door. Too far backward and the weather strip hangs over the edge of the door at the rear. Don't got tightening it all up without checking the alignment with the door nearly closed.

  • The glass alignment is also critical. I put a section of masking tape along where the glass an the seal edge met. This allowed me to pull it up to the right height. If you push it too far down into the clamps, then when you close the door, it will not meet the roof line (will have a gap at the top of the window).
    As well as vertical, you also need to pay attention to the horizontal position of the glass. Too far forward and the gap on the rubber where the real quarter window joins, will be too big (looks odd). So maybe another bit of masking tape is needed here also.
In total, replacing both weather strips took me about 6 hours. As usual, the first one took 4 hours and the second one took me 2 hours. I also had to go to Audi and get the replacement screws. I'm glad I got those sorted before they all went rusty.
 
#2 ·
Hell of a write up Darryl and an excellent ”how to” guide!!! - I shall be bookmarking this one for future reference. Fantastic guide mate. Did it sort the window smearing etc?

It‘s people doing stuff like this, documenting it, taking the time to write up an extremely informative guide that makes this forum special!!
 
#3 ·
Thanks pal.
For me it was about the water getting past the seal. It was better after I adjusted the windows, fitted plastic at the back of the speakers etc. But I felt these were all just dealing with the symptoms of a bigger issue.
So I resigned myself to replacing the weatherstrips.
It's made a massive difference from what I can see messing with the hosepipe (errr watering can :censored:).
Now, hardly any water gets into the door in the first place.
Any smearing would be potentially fixed if I had that issue.

I've got loads more pics, but the forum restricts the number on a post so I try to keep it light.
I might add them further down tomorrow.
I didn't want to take away what Ian has already shown in his vid, but I think the bits I have written and the photos are a little clearer, since Ian's was already dismantled somehow.
 
#4 ·
@ darrylmg - Great DIY and more photos would be very helpful. This one will have it's own place in the Knowledge Base for sure! ;)

Unfortunately since VerticalScope took over the Forum, the number of of attachments and photos is limited to 10 per thread. What you might want to do is create a number of sqeuential threads with 10 pictures in each thread so you can upload all the pictures you want.

Easiest way to do this is to estimate how many threads you need, then create each one with the text - "Section 1", "Section 2", etc. and then quickly post them so no one can get a comment in between the threads. (If they do I can delete them for you).

Then go back and edit each thread; upload your pictures, add any commentary and you're good to go.

If you run into any issues, give me a shout and I can help with any editing. (y)
 
#7 ·
Your vid is essential watching, but even on super slow motion i couldn't quite see in detail what you were doing. On the normal speed (you time-lapse it) it was like I was watching the Matrix's Neo in full swing.o_O

Once I got to the screws of the weather strip I thought I was done for, because it was due to rain that day and I was struggling to even get a couple out in one piece. Luckily the Audi dealer was open on a Saturday morning and I could get some replacements.
Hopefully just the warning about the possible condition of the screws is enough to save someone from a lengthy and possibly wet day!

It rained hard here today and not a single drop of water anywhere near the seal at the bottom of the door. If anyone has water ingress that lands on the seal at the bottom of the door, then I recommend changing the weather strip as part of the fault finding.
After seeing the door/seal design and troubleshooting the water ingress, I am wondering if the issues with the window regulator are also caused by water ingress rusting the cable...
 
#10 ·
The door weather strip sits on the outside of the door window and it forms part of the exterior seal that helps to reduce the amount of water that can run down the window glass and into the inside of the door.
I say "reduce" because water will always run down the inside of the door. It's part of the design, but during my investigation into water ingress, I found my seal to be inadequate.

The weather strip is part #8 in the diagram:

View attachment 490306

Part numbers are:
8J0837478C (right)
8J0837477C (left)

Prices are currently about £60 each from Audi.

As per the diagram, it is screwed into the car door door with a T15 screw, #10 on the diagram and is part number:

N10642801

7 screws are needed per door.

Why would you need to replace the weather strip?
Well, over time the velvet like coating that meets the glass can wear down and become flat, producing an inferior water seal.

Here's a pic of my old one (left) vs a new one (right). You can see that the wear on the velvet like coating has worn on mine:

View attachment 490307

The other thing that is different is the protrusion of the worn part. On mine it is less. It has lost flexibility and memory. The new one pushes back into its place with force and would be pushing onto the glass in a more firm manner.

Fitting the weather strip is not a simple task.
As per Ian's video (
) you need the door card off and access to the glass clamp screws for removing the glass.

When doing this task you may also wish to consider cleaning all around the seals and washing the glass (it will have a dirt line which creates the mess some people have when they wind their windows up.

Steps:

  1. Leave the window in the up position.
  2. Remove the door card (yeah, one line for that one :LOL:).
  3. With the door card off, remove the large access panel/shield to get access to the glass clamp bolt (I think 12mm). Completely remove this bolt as it goes right through the glass (special hole in the glass).
  4. Remove the top bung (closest to the wing mirror) to get access to the other glass clamp which is a hefty torx screw (t30 I think). This screw stays in place!! Just loosen it!
  5. Release the glass from the clamps. It just pulls up and out. You may have to get your hand into the inside of the door to help wiggle the furthest clamp off, as it can be a little stuck with age.
  6. After the glass is out, remove the plastic triangle on the inside of the door next to the wing mirror but inside. Just prise it at the bottom then push up at the same time (t has a slot where it sits on the metal lip that is exposed out of the rubber seal).
    View attachment 490308

  7. Removing this inside triangle will reveal more access to pull up the rubber gater slightly. Under the gater is a torx screw that will release the outside plastic triangle.

    View attachment 490310

    View attachment 490312

  8. With both inside and outside plastic triangles removed, you can now remove the aperture rubber seal. It pulls up, but it works best if you reach inside the door (long arm needed) to remove the seal from its place (just pull it). It is pushed into a recess that runs down inside the door. Removing it along the door edge is easy, just pull up. Do not pull it off at the side edge of the door (where the door lock is) because it connects onto the glued on part. You just need it out of the way.
    In the picture below, mine has been removed. You can see in the middle of the picture is the recess that the rubber seal sits in when it runs into the inside of the door (for supporting the window glass as it lowers into the door):
    View attachment 490309

  9. Once the rubber is out of the way, you will see the 7 torx screws that hold the weather strip to the door.
    Most of mine were rusty, but one was really bad and took some effort to get it out.

    View attachment 490311
The process to put it all back together is the exact reverse.
A couple of points I found:
  • The seal that runs down into the inside of the door needs triple checking that it is in place properly. It seats into the recess and the seal is designed to protect the glass from the metal. If the seal is not seated correctly/fully, then it causes the window regulator too mush strain and it cuts out (does not fully raise/lower the window).
    It took me a while to figure out why mine was not working properly.
    If it is not seated correctly it can also cause a lot of window squeal during lowering.

  • The quality of the weather strip I got was not great. The eBay seller was really helpful and they said the pair I bought were from Audi direct. They looked OK, but on fitting there was a slight deformity right at the tip of the seal that points to the front of the car. I had to actually trim some excess rubber off a little rubber tab to make it fit as designed. I don't know if Audi would have done such a great job...

  • The horizontal position of the weather strip affects how the front lip sits (at the front of the door). Too far backward and the lip is distorted as it has a small tab that needs to fit into the line of the door. Too far backward and the weather strip hangs over the edge of the door at the rear. Don't got tightening it all up without checking the alignment with the door nearly closed.

  • The glass alignment is also critical. I put a section of masking tape along where the glass an the seal edge met. This allowed me to pull it up to the right height. If you push it too far down into the clamps, then when you close the door, it will not meet the roof line (will have a gap at the top of the window).
    As well as vertical, you also need to pay attention to the horizontal position of the glass. Too far forward and the gap on the rubber where the real quarter window joins, will be too big (looks odd). So maybe another bit of masking tape is needed here also.
In total, replacing both weather strips took me about 6 hours. As usual, the first one took 4 hours and the second one took me 2 hours. I also had to go to Audi and get the replacement screws. I'm glad I got those sorted before they all went rusty.
The door weather strip sits on the outside of the door window and it forms part of the exterior seal that helps to reduce the amount of water that can run down the window glass and into the inside of the door.
I say "reduce" because water will always run down the inside of the door. It's part of the design, but during my investigation into water ingress, I found my seal to be inadequate.

The weather strip is part #8 in the diagram:

View attachment 490306

Part numbers are:
8J0837478C (right)
8J0837477C (left)

Prices are currently about £60 each from Audi.

As per the diagram, it is screwed into the car door door with a T15 screw, #10 on the diagram and is part number:

N10642801

7 screws are needed per door.

Why would you need to replace the weather strip?
Well, over time the velvet like coating that meets the glass can wear down and become flat, producing an inferior water seal.

Here's a pic of my old one (left) vs a new one (right). You can see that the wear on the velvet like coating has worn on mine:

View attachment 490307

The other thing that is different is the protrusion of the worn part. On mine it is less. It has lost flexibility and memory. The new one pushes back into its place with force and would be pushing onto the glass in a more firm manner.

Fitting the weather strip is not a simple task.
As per Ian's video (
) you need the door card off and access to the glass clamp screws for removing the glass.

When doing this task you may also wish to consider cleaning all around the seals and washing the glass (it will have a dirt line which creates the mess some people have when they wind their windows up.

Steps:

  1. Leave the window in the up position.
  2. Remove the door card (yeah, one line for that one :LOL:).
  3. With the door card off, remove the large access panel/shield to get access to the glass clamp bolt (I think 12mm). Completely remove this bolt as it goes right through the glass (special hole in the glass).
  4. Remove the top bung (closest to the wing mirror) to get access to the other glass clamp which is a hefty torx screw (t30 I think). This screw stays in place!! Just loosen it!
  5. Release the glass from the clamps. It just pulls up and out. You may have to get your hand into the inside of the door to help wiggle the furthest clamp off, as it can be a little stuck with age.
  6. After the glass is out, remove the plastic triangle on the inside of the door next to the wing mirror but inside. Just prise it at the bottom then push up at the same time (t has a slot where it sits on the metal lip that is exposed out of the rubber seal).
    View attachment 490308

  7. Removing this inside triangle will reveal more access to pull up the rubber gater slightly. Under the gater is a torx screw that will release the outside plastic triangle.

    View attachment 490310

    View attachment 490312

  8. With both inside and outside plastic triangles removed, you can now remove the aperture rubber seal. It pulls up, but it works best if you reach inside the door (long arm needed) to remove the seal from its place (just pull it). It is pushed into a recess that runs down inside the door. Removing it along the door edge is easy, just pull up. Do not pull it off at the side edge of the door (where the door lock is) because it connects onto the glued on part. You just need it out of the way.
    In the picture below, mine has been removed. You can see in the middle of the picture is the recess that the rubber seal sits in when it runs into the inside of the door (for supporting the window glass as it lowers into the door):
    View attachment 490309

  9. Once the rubber is out of the way, you will see the 7 torx screws that hold the weather strip to the door.
    Most of mine were rusty, but one was really bad and took some effort to get it out.

    View attachment 490311
The process to put it all back together is the exact reverse.
A couple of points I found:
  • The seal that runs down into the inside of the door needs triple checking that it is in place properly. It seats into the recess and the seal is designed to protect the glass from the metal. If the seal is not seated correctly/fully, then it causes the window regulator too mush strain and it cuts out (does not fully raise/lower the window).
    It took me a while to figure out why mine was not working properly.
    If it is not seated correctly it can also cause a lot of window squeal during lowering.

  • The quality of the weather strip I got was not great. The eBay seller was really helpful and they said the pair I bought were from Audi direct. They looked OK, but on fitting there was a slight deformity right at the tip of the seal that points to the front of the car. I had to actually trim some excess rubber off a little rubber tab to make it fit as designed. I don't know if Audi would have done such a great job...

  • The horizontal position of the weather strip affects how the front lip sits (at the front of the door). Too far backward and the lip is distorted as it has a small tab that needs to fit into the line of the door. Too far backward and the weather strip hangs over the edge of the door at the rear. Don't got tightening it all up without checking the alignment with the door nearly closed.

  • The glass alignment is also critical. I put a section of masking tape along where the glass an the seal edge met. This allowed me to pull it up to the right height. If you push it too far down into the clamps, then when you close the door, it will not meet the roof line (will have a gap at the top of the window).
    As well as vertical, you also need to pay attention to the horizontal position of the glass. Too far forward and the gap on the rubber where the real quarter window joins, will be too big (looks odd). So maybe another bit of masking tape is needed here also.
In total, replacing both weather strips took me about 6 hours. As usual, the first one took 4 hours and the second one took me 2 hours. I also had to go to Audi and get the replacement screws. I'm glad I got those sorted before they all went rusty.
I am traying to find this part for my TT MK1 Roadster but, I am windering ir maybe this part for mk2 fits with mk1 model….
 
#11 ·
Try the MK1 section, it most definitely won't be the same as the MK2
 
#12 ·
Respect! There is a lot of thought and effort put in by the OP to create the post.
‘Remove the door card (yeah, one line for that one :LOL:)’
:) So, if you have the door card off for any of the many reasons reported here, this looks a no brainier for fifty quid while yer in there?
 
#13 ·
I would say yes.
  1. It was also useful to see the state of the screws that hold the weather strip in place. Mine had started rusting. I can see this area being a potential rust area in the next 10 years (when the mk2 reaches the age the mk1 is now).

  2. It's always good to mess about with stuff "while you're there" because it expands the knowledge a little more. If I had an issue with the door, I now know how it all fits together.