I think you have to check VC to see what gear it is.... in your case, it could be already D2 when you were slowing down, and when you flipped the left paddle 2 times to activate the manual mode, it could jump down to M1, and that explained the rev going up with gear 1 to match the speed ???

For me, to have a quick overtake, just flick the gear knob back and it activates S mode and then flick it again to go back to D mode, quick and simple.

 

two possible reasons:
1. the car changes gear depending of how much you accelerate, in this case, your 2 gears down, related at the quantity of your acceleration, weren't enough so the car has shifted another gear (i don't know which gear were you)
anyway, is totally normal in Auto mode.
2. the same situation descriptor above plus, if you press the accelerator until its end, there is a button called kick-down that downshifts the gear that can give you the maximum power engine at the moment, so your 2 gears weren't enough also this time related to your acceleration!

in manual and sport mode, the car keeps the gear until you reach the red zone or you reach lower revs and it switches down a gear.

hope I've explained well!

 

Even in manual mode, I've had Christine mysteriously knock it down an extra cog when giving it full beans

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Sounds like you guys are pushing hard enough on the accelerator to activate the kick-down feature.
Check your owners manuals to see how this works.

 

Sounds like you guys are pushing hard enough on the accelerator to activate the kick-down feature.
Check your owners manuals to see how this works.

Agreed sounds like the kick down indeed - it is hard to avoid at first as one wants to give it full beans when overtaking.

Rather than how hard you're pushing on the accelerator, the fly-by wire on the throttle records the speed at which it is pressed and kick-down takes over from there. If you remember to press down all the way but slightly slower as you press, you can avoid it - just hard to control at first on DSGs cars from previous experience.

 

There's a simple solution to this problem - get a car with a manual gearbox; then YOU select exactly which gear you want
rather than rely on the car's electronics to make the right choice.
Automatics are for elderly drivers in low performance cars.

 

I must admit sometimes I am screaming at the car 'what are you doing!'

I tend to leave in dynamic now and just use the up paddle to stick in a higher gear for a bit more fuel economy, then let it do it's own downshifting.

The problem is you spend a lot of time staring at the dash to check what gear it's decided to be in rather than eyes on the road

 

would the s-tronic gear box downshift when in dynamic mode? On my 328i, in when in Sport mode, it would downshift, but in Sport+ (which deactivate stability program) it wouldn't, i.e. no kick-down. (I found out only a few days ago).

 

In dynamic mode, the car keeps always high revs..you'll drive at 70km/h in 2 gear like an old woman! Ahaha
It would downshift when necessary to keep high revs and it'll shift as soon as you reach the red zone in manual or in automatic

 

There's a simple solution to this problem - get a car with a manual gearbox; then YOU select exactly which gear you want
rather than rely on the car's electronics to make the right choice.
Automatics are for elderly drivers in low performance cars.

Unfortunately the new Mk3 TT Quattro only comes in DSG so there's not the option to have a Manual box.I would disagree that "Auto's are for elderly drivers in low performance cars" most of the new Ferrari's and Lambo's only come with DSG paddle option not to mention F1.

 

would the s-tronic gear box downshift when in dynamic mode? On my 328i, in when in Sport mode, it would downshift, but in Sport+ (which deactivate stability program) it wouldn't, i.e. no kick-down. (I found out only a few days ago).

Hi,
While I was out this morning, I thought I'd see if the car overrides my gear selection in Sport Mode, I came out of a round a bought in third doing about 3000 revs, I put my food down to see if it would pull from 3000 rev but it kicked down another gear. I wish Sport/Manual mode didn't override what I want the car to do. I was in INDIVIDUAL Mode with the Eng option set to Auto, maybe Dynamic Mode will stop the car overriding my selection.
Regards,
Martin

 

If the revs are lower related the actual gear and you press too much and too quickly the accelerator, it'll shift in any mode.
To accelerate without downshift you should accelerate not so quickly until the end.
Can happen that in auto mode you don't reach the red zone if you're not pressing all the pedal, but you always can in dynamic mode

 

If the revs are lower related the actual gear and you press too much and too quickly the accelerator, it'll shift in any mode.
To accelerate without downshift you should accelerate not so quickly until the end.
Can happen that in auto mode you don't reach the red zone if you're not pressing all the pedal, but you always can in dynamic mode

Thanks for the tip Manu. I'll have to push the accelerator pedal slower and not quite all the way to the floor. Its only my second week with the car so I'm still learning how to use the DSG box.
Regards,
Martin,

 

Yes for a few weeks you need more patience!!
Sometimes the gear selected is not the gear that you are used to put.. Or with drive select you have to use any mode to understand well how them work... It's a second job!! Ahaha

 

I'm 2 weeks into my first s tronic and I've found myself doing the following.

Comfort mode for motorway driving

Individual mode with gearbox comfort, steering dynamic, exhaust dynamic and Quattro comfort for pottering around and because the gearbox is set to comfort the changes are smooth and it uses the torque more and changes down less.

Dynamic with gearbox in drive for making good progress when I want gears to be sorted for me

Dynamic sport and then across to manual when I want to drive how I drove my old manual. Treat it exactly how you want then, hold onto second, use torque with no kick down etc. If you want to control the gears just usual manual mode??

Sport mode I haven't used more than twice now but I think I'll always go for manual mode if I'm giving it the beans. I'm not comfortable in it at the moment as I've only just past 600 miles but red lining every gear feels a bit fast and furious

I don't use the manual override, I'd rather knock the box across and have full control if that's what I'm looking to do

 

Comfort and efficiency are the same, only the second one use neutral when you can't accelerate.
Individual is better than auto to me, in the everyday drive I have what I need with this option.
I don't like and I don't use auto because it's not as fast as you need to change parameters.

 

What would be really cool is if you could align the driving modes to the map....

Comfort in towns... dynamic for hoon time

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Ahaha no no maybe when you need power, the car is comfort and you lose with a VW!

 

Ahaha no no maybe when you need power, the car is comfort and you lose with a VW!

So on a DSG box in Comfort, if you knock the knob into Sport it won't override it?

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always in any mode, if you put S on the gearbox the car will drive like in dynamic but only the engine/gearbox response

 

always in any mode, if you put S on the gearbox the car will drive like in dynamic but only the engine/gearbox response

Hi Manu,
Please can you clarify what are the modes Manual and Sport. If I push the gear lever to the left (Manual Mode) does this mean I'm in Sport Mode or is that another setting? I was out driving today along some nice twisty country roads in Manual Mode, I then changed the DRIVE SELECT to Dynamic Mode, but the Gear Indicator still showed M2, M3, M4, M5, M6 I thought it would show S2, S3, S4, S5, S6 instead. if it was in Sport Mode.

 

Manual mode M is when you push the knob to the right +/- symbols and you can change gear with paddles and of course the knob.
M will appears on the cockpit if you are in D and change gear with paddles, the gearbox will remain in M for 8 seconds the return in D
Sport mode is when you select dynamic or when you are normally driving in D (with any ads setting) and push the knob down, below the D..there is another position with a symbol like an arrow or triangle

 

Manual mode M is when you push the knob to the right +/- symbols and you can change gear with paddles and of course the knob.
M will appears on the cockpit if you are in D and change gear with paddles, the gearbox will remain in M for 8 seconds the return in D
Sport mode is when you select dynamic or when you are normally driving in D (with any ads setting) and push the knob down, below the D..there is another position with a symbol like an arrow or triangle

Hi Manu,
Wow I've just been out to check my car and you are right. I didn't even know about the triangle below the D. When I pull the gear lever back, I switches between D1 and S1 (Drive and Sport I presume) So does S Mode put all settings into Dynamic Modes?. If I switch it to Sport Mode and then push the Gear Lever into Manual Mode (Paddle Only), does it still stay in Sport Mode?

 

The sport mode S with the knob changes settings only for the engine/gearbox and not for magnetic ride or steering wheel etc like drive select.
The rest of settings will remain as they are.
Your second question is a bit tricky..Manual mode overrides S but engine/gearbox depend from if you were in comfort or in dynamic..resuming is a Manual comfort or Manual dynamic

 

Hi Manu,
Thanks once again for the clear explanation.I'll try the S Mode when I get the next opportunity.

Martin