Hi, What is the distance between the wheel centre & the arch? 370mm standard, 350mm sports suspension, front & rear.
Hoggy.

 

Just 33cm

 

Changing the transverse arms will not alter the spring height.

Do you have a picture of the springs before they were fitted?

 

By "spring knocking" do you mean that the coils are hitting each other on compressing? They do look too close together in your photo, and I can't see if that pic is taken at full droop or ride height.

It looks like there's a bunch of "dead" coils up top and maybe 1 1/2 coils actually supporting the weight.

 

Yes, when I go over bumps, I hear something hitting the back, but nothing is touching anything, it could only be the spring.
The picture was taken in the loaded, normal state.

 

[IDÉZET="David C, hozzászólás: 9730526, tag: 75163"]
A keresztkarok megváltoztatása nem változtatja meg a rugó magasságát.

Van képed a rugókról a felszerelés előtt?
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Hi, What is the distance between the wheel centre & the arch? 370mm standard, 350mm sports suspension, front & rear.
Hoggy.

Hi, Appears to be the wrong springs then, difference is too great for missing spacers.
Hoggy.

Thanks, I wrote to the Vogtland dealership about the problem. I'm sad that something is wrong, in the meantime I think I'll rebuild the factory rear spring, because I don't dare drive with it. Anyone bought this set, it's good for everyone, but not for me

 

Hi, MK1 aftermarket springs can be a nightmare, so many different springs/spacers etc on the OEM setup. Best of luck.
Hoggy.

 

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Szia, az MK1 utángyártott rugói rémálom tudnak lenni, annyi különböző rugó/távtartó stb. van a gyári szettben. Sok szerencsét!
Hoggy.
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The factory spring was 5 blue dots, it was a standard suspension. I hope this is a good starting point, compared to this the Vogtland is 2.5cm shorter at rest. It just got softer somehow and collapsed. So the rear wishbone adjustment doesn't help, the spring needs to be replaced. Thanks for the help!

 

Hi, I realise you are not in the UK, but this site shows the length of the rear springs standard & sports, so it may be helpful for info.
Hoggy.

Steering & Suspension Springs

Browsing Steering & Suspension Springs

www.napaautoparts.co.uk

 

Thank you, I've already seen these, because before I opened a topic here, I tried to look through all the discussions here to see if they had the answer to my problem

 

From the picture of the springs in their box, they look like quite soft very short (so low) springs.

I’ll attach a picture of my std OEM rear springs for comparison.

 

I have 5 blue dots on the factory one, compared to that the Vogtland was 2.5 cm shorter, probably too soft and very compressed

 

Sounds like they sent the wrong spring. Is there a part number on it that you can use to independently verify whether it is the correct spring for the 2000 Q?

b.

 

5x blue dots / 5x violet dots are both PR code 0YL without a shim, but different years.

With different PR codes the 5x violet springs did run with a 2.5mm shim after the VIN number shown.
As Hoggy said, springs are a minefield as there are many MANY different versions even before you get into the murky depths of aftermarket...

 

I spoke to the Vogtland representative today, they are investigating the case, they are very helpful in the matter. In the meantime, I rebuilt the factory rear springs, so the rear height is 355mm, the front 350mm. This can be used until the matter is resolved, the Vogtland spring remains in the front. The representative also advised me to make a spacer for the rear as a test to see if it will knock up. I was thinking that a spacer should be made of some hard rubber.
The spring thread has come together, supposedly this is fine, because it is a so-called progressive spring. This is where we are at the moment.

 

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Problémáim voltak a 2002-es 225-ösöm hátsó rugómagasságával, miután az egyik eltört. Az én esetemben az új hátsó rugóstagok túl magasak voltak, pedig egy Audi márkakereskedés szállította őket, akik ragaszkodtak hozzá, hogy ez a megfelelő rugó. Utánanéztem, megtaláltam és megrendeltem a megfelelő alkatrészt. Sajnos ezen a héten szabadságon vagyok, így a rugó cikkszámát csak jövő héten tudom meg, de ha jól emlékszem, az eredeti Audi alkatrész egy-két sárga ponttal van jelölve. A cikkszámot jövő hét közteszem.
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[IDÉZET="Hoggy, hozzászólás: 9730596, tag: 1265"]
Szia! A 2001-es 225-ösömben eredeti hátsó rugók vannak, hasmagasság 370 mm, és 5 lila/mályva folt van rajtuk, szóval megint különböző rugók.
A Napa weboldala szerint a standard rugóknak 325 mm hosszúaknak kell lenniük, de a gyakorlatban természetesen előfordulhatnak távtartók a magasság növeléséhez vagy csökkentéséhez.
Milyen hosszúak a rugóid?
Hoggy.
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Mine is a 2000 model, 5 blue dot markings, 190mm