[TTNZ]

How many wires are in the plug arrow 2 mate and what pins are they in ??????

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9 wires in total. Can you tell from the colours what they are for ? I can't tell what pins they go to. But what I can tell you is this plug went directly into the Clarion jap stereo Harness it seem to be a speaker feed. Secondly although this plug looks extremely similar to the type that would go into the bottom of the quad lock it doesn't fit on either side. although it does fit the concert without the quadlock.
Secondly the arrow 1 plug was 100% just for power into the Clarion Headunit.

The quadlock is just some generic fully populated standard quadlock Sot loom from autoleads.co.uk mod Sot 976fb

Remember right now all I have conected through it is Di Sens and +UB and earth so just power which works.

Remember also this is a Jap car.

Hey thanks sooo much for all the help, I really hope I can get the stereo running.

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[ReTTro fit]

Right, it's Deffo the line outs for speakers then
In that case it goes where the green plug is in this pic

It's probably your aftermarket quadlock that is restricting the fitting of the plug
Have you tried trimming it to make it fit ?

Make it fit, power up and you should have sound

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[TTNZ]

Right, it's Deffo the line outs for speakers then
In that case it goes where the green plug is in this pic

It's probably your aftermarket quadlock that is restricting the fitting of the plug
Have you tried trimming it to make it fit ?

Make it fit, power up and you should have sound

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Well i managed to pop that shielding off so that I could fit it into the quadlock :-( no sound at all.

Here are the pin numbers and the color wire thats in it.

1 empty
2 solid red
3 solid brown
4 green with yellow stripe
5 solid brown
6 solid green

7 empty
8 solid yellow
9 solid brown
10 empty
11 solid brown
12 Solid Blue

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[tttony]

Hi Guys, after a bit of searching, I think that I know what is going on here. See this topic on another forum.
http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/arch ... 59639.html

It seems that the Clarion unit was factory or dealer fitted for the Japanese market and the the car would never have had a quadlock system. I think that both Lea and I had assumed that you were trying to retro-fit the original HU. If it was not from your car, have you got the security code for it? You may have problems anyway with the wiring being very different for Jap market cars and that may explain why you can't find the "missing" cables. More complicated that I first thought!!

 

[TTNZ]

Hi Guys, after a bit of searching, I think that I know what is going on here. See this topic on another forum.
http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/arch ... 59639.html

It seems that the Clarion unit was factory or dealer fitted for the Japanese market and the the car would never have had a quadlock system. I think that both Lea and I had assumed that you were trying to retro-fit the original HU. If it was not from your car, have you got the security code for it? You may have problems anyway with the wiring being very different for Jap market cars and that may explain why you can't find the "missing" cables. More complicated that I first thought!!

Oh jesus that's not good hmm. Good detective work though, cheers

Yes that guy is in the same boat. Im in NZ with a JAP import like mine Clarion aftermarket HU coming out no standard factory quadlock and Concert audi stereo I bought in London last week going in.

Jeez Im at a loss here

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Well, every day's a school day !!

As much as the loom with the plugs etc looked factory, I would NEVER of know that it actually was factory, I just assumed someone had done a nice job with the cloth tape

Nice find tony, well done mate !!

The plug / pin labels above equates to cd changer loom mate ( without aux )

But we're now looking at a totally different ball game

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[TTNZ]

Well, every day's a school day !!

As much as the loom with the plugs etc looked factory, I would NEVER of know that it actually was factory, I just assumed someone had done a nice job with the cloth tape

Nice find tony, well done mate !!

The plug / pin labels above equates to cd changer loom mate ( without aux )

But we're now looking at a totally different ball game

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Then what was the sound traveling through to the speakers? There are no other cables apart from these aerial types that went into some weird Clarion junction box.

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[tttony]

TBH, TTNZ, as you said that the Clarion unit was working before you took it out, if I were you, I would put it all back in and live with it. Why don't you like it? Just out of interest, could you post a pic of the front panel?

I know that Jap market radios won't work properly in the UK without installing a frequency converter. Does the same apply in NZ?

As I haven't got a wiring diagram for a Jap market radio install I don't think that I will be able to help anymore. If a lot of used cars are exported from Japan to NZ are there any specialist car audio businesses in Auckland that could do the conversion for you?

 

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1 empty / empty

2 solid red / unknown

3 solid brown / line FR

4 green with yellow stripe / unknown

5 solid brown / line RL

6 solid green / tel af-

7 empty / empty

8 solid yellow / line gnd

9 solid brown / line FR

10 empty / empty

11 solid brown / line RR

12 Solid Blue / tel af+

If your saying the plug is for speakers then it does have some consistency from the concert stereo label and would suggest the line outs are all brown

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Now after looking closer at pics
I notice the colours are twisted in pairs

Therefore it must be

1 empty

2 solid red / line FR +

3 solid brown / line FR-

4 green with yellow stripe / line gnd

5 solid brown / line RL-

6 solid green / line RL+

7 empty / empty

8 solid yellow / line FR+

9 solid brown / line FR-

10 empty / empty

11 solid brown / line RR-

12 Solid Blue / line RR+

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[tttony]

Hi TTNZ,

Try contacting this company in NZ as they may be able to help with a conversion loom:

http://www.edsauto.co.nz

If you are continuing by yourself then this may help you identify the CAN bus wires:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthrea ... n-question

 

[TTNZ]

Hi TTNZ,

Try contacting this company in NZ as they may be able to help with a conversion loom:

http://www.edsauto.co.nz

If you are continuing by yourself then this may help you identify the CAN bus wires:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthrea ... n-question

Hi Tony,

You are to kind mate. Thanks but it's actually eds I took it to and he was also totally confused about what was going on with the Loom.
He sold me the quadlock and wished me good luck hahaha.
Standby though I went and saw a VAG guy this afternoon and I think he has sorted it. I am litrally this minute about to try his idea.

Thanks so much

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[TTNZ]

Hi TTNZ,

Try contacting this company in NZ as they may be able to help with a conversion loom:

http://www.edsauto.co.nz

If you are continuing by yourself then this may help you identify the CAN bus wires:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthrea ... n-question

Hi Tony,

So I hooked up the speakers as per the diagram but still no sound I even conected the canbus L and H and the speaker ground I also checked the boot amp fuse and did a continuatty test on all connections.

I can't seem to find a single reason why there is no sound.

Things I have noted though are this concert HU is only a 2 speaker HU and I have 4 speakers.
I hear a slight pop amp sound when the HU starts up from the rear speaker.
I have tested the head unit on an external speaker and the output is fine.

So what could stop the sound playing out of the speakers.

Are there any more fuses I can check I'm honestly thinking about running my own wires to the door speakers :-(

Thanks again guys.

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Just a thought but is the head unit coded correctly ??
I can't see it making a difference but maybe it's coded for Bose

Just an idea mate

Maybe tony would know

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[tttony]

As I mentioned in an earlier post, have you entered the correct security code for the radio?

 

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He says he's getting sound from the stereos own outputs so I guess it's correct

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[tttony]

Sorry Lea, I should pay more attention to what I'm reading, or at least remember what I've read!

TTNZ, You've said that you checked the fuse for the rear amp, but is the amp actually getting its 12v supply? The HU should be giving 12v out on the blue (or is it blue/white) into the loom.

 

[TTNZ]

Sorry Lea, I should pay more attention to what I'm reading, or at least remember what I've read!

TTNZ, You've said that you checked the fuse for the rear amp, but is the amp actually getting its 12v supply? The HU should be giving 12v out on the blue (or is it blue/white) into the loom.

Whats that labbelled as on the HU wiring diagram Tony ?

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[TTNZ]

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[tttony]

I've just pulled my HU out to check the wiring colours. Mine are as follows;

DSP EIN = green yellow. This is the one that tells the rear amp to turn on. (not blue as I said, which is Jap aftermarket HUs)
DWA = N/C
+UB = two red/white (the main pos feed)
DISENS = red/white (looped from one of the above)

Earth + brown
TEL MUTE = N/C
CAN/L & CAN/H = the two CAN bus wires

All the other main pins are N/C

The rear amp gets its line level signals from the green plug top left:

LINERR = red
LINERL = green
LINEFR = yellow
LINEFL = blue
Earth = brown

I have taken some pics which need resizing before posting.