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Stealth69 said:
Manufacturer: XTRONS
Model: PF75ATTA
Purchased: September 2016
Retail Price: £269 with ODBII bluetooth adapter, sign up to XTRON VIP and get 15% off of your first order ;)

Steering wheel integration: Very good. Everything works. The volume scroller works great and pushing in mutes the audio. (I don't have MFW) so can only comment on the volume control

Interface: Pretty good for driving. Looks very smart and is easy to use on the move, the icons are huge and as with any Android device you can customize the screens, move things about etc. It's very slick and very quick with a handy "kill all" rocket to close all apps you have opened whilst dicking around..... like I say it's super speedy and you have no excuse to not have all the things you want where you want them.

Satnav: meh it's on there, all much of a muchness, you just stick the one you know and like on there and off you go.

Media Support: There are two included USB cables which can be installed easily as required by the driver. It snaps into the loom. DAB+ is a separate purchase. A single deck CD/DVD player is installed but all audio formats should be playable. A2DP Bluetooth audio is brilliant with my iPhone, hooked straight up and started streaming direct from Deezer on my phone, easy to control etc but I will be installing Deezer on to the headunit itself to get full functionality and use the IPhone as a hotspot.

Connectivity: Bluetooth is great on this unit, allows me to easily pair a mobile phone and it will communicate with a bluetooth OBD tool simultaneously. The headunit has WIFI which is perfect as I have it downloaded Torque and will get deezer via WIFI. A 3G dongle can be purchased from manufacturer but in this day and age tethering is far easier and cost effective.

Ease of Installation: The removal of the old head unit is a doddle, the fitting of the new headunit and wiring is a doddle, the plugs can and will only go in one hole and one way..... the headunit on the hole however is a bitch, as stated before the top clips in with ease, the bottom..... not so much.... absolute twat.... and yes I did bleed for this bastid!!!

BEFORE YOU INSTALL: (as stated by Anth1234) - Decide whether or not you want a back-up camera, if not you need to cut the back-up camera wire and tape it with electrical tape.Otherwise when you select reverse, the music will mute and the screen will go black with an exclamation mark in the centre.

So how does it stack up?

Fitment: 9/10
Audio Quality (Standard Audio Equipment): 7/10
Functionality and Flexibility: 8/10
Speed and Performance: 8/10 due to the user being required to clear cache regularly.
Overall integration: 10/10 (just because it does everything I am capable of doing)

Total Ranking: 8.5/10

Final Comments: Can be a twat to fit so go in with some patience, the airbag light can be pesky, make sure the clips don't fire off when you remove it from the old headunit. I don't know what everyone is banging on about re: sound quality, it's ok to be fair but then I'm not running Bose so maybe this makes a difference...... no hissing or popping, it's plenty good enough for what I and 90% of the world will need, certainly won't meet the requirements of audiophiles. All in all good purchase and happy with what I got :)
Ive been looking at these head units and was about to ask in the main forum how the quality was etc so you've saved me a job, Many thanks for the good review will order one later
 
CurryMan said:
Manufacturer: Alpine
Model: ILX-700
Purchased: December 2017
Retail Price: Discontinued now and replaced by Alpine 702D

Please find my review of the Alpine ILX-700 headunit installed on my Non-Bose Audi TT.

The Alpine ILX-700 is a CarPlay only unit which means it will only support iPhone's. The new Alpine replacement is the 702D (https://www.alpine.co.uk/p/Products/SingleView/iLX-702D) which supports both iPhone & Android phones and features other upgrades such Bluetooth, DAB, Customisable Buttons such as OEM Red etc. It's important to note you need a decent data plan contract as it uses data to navigate / play music.

CarPlay
The CarPlay interface has come a long way since it's release and now supports Apps such as Spotify, Waze, Google Maps, Amazon Music, Apple Music, WhatsApp, Tidal, BBC iPlayer, Audiobooks and many more. Apple are constantly allowing more and more apps to it's suite, to keep up-to-date on the latest CarPlay news, please find a link to a resource I use:
http://www.carplaylife.com

Look of the Unit Compared to OEM
This unit doesn't look Audi OEM but it blends in enough with the interior so it doesn't look out of place. Unfortunately you can't change the button illumination colour which remain white (as opposed to the OEM red) but they look fine in my opinion and doesn't scream chavy upgrade. This a premium headunit and as such looks premium once installed which you'd expect from a manufacturer such as Alpine.

Screen
The screen quality is superb and very clear with a good level of detail. It also auto-adjusts the brightness which means you don't have to fiddle with the brightness at night. It uses an in-built light sensor to detect how ambient the environment is and adjusts accordingly which works very well. The touchscreen also works well making scrolling quick and easy and is very intuitive to use. A HUGE advantage over the Audi RNS-E units which doesn't feature any touchscreen operation at all.

You can also customise the splash screen and I have made my own Audi image which helps it look very OEM on boot-up. Please find a link to my splash screen below which you can use if you wish. Please note this image is optimised for use on the ILX-700 headunit's screen size:

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Some Info on The Integrated iPhone Dock
I have purchased and installed an integrated dock designed to fit in the ashtray, see this link for all the info you need with more pictures and installation instructions of the dock and headunit:
https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread. ... r-iPhone-6.

The dock works very well and is the perfect solution as opposed to connecting your phone and placing it in the glovebox each time your enter your car. I sprayed mine to match the black interior using Halfords own brand 'Matt Black' spray paint and it looks very OEM. In fact, people always comment on how OEM it looks and ask if it was an Audi option. Here's a link to where you can purchase the dock from:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/AYSKQ ... =affiliate

Here's a YouTube link of the dock in action:

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From what I can see there are currently three dock versions available from Shapeways which are:

1) Audi TT ashtray dock for iPhone 5 / 5s / SE
https://www.shapeways.com/product/AYSKQ ... d=55528745

2) Audi TT dock for iPhone 6/6s/7 with Leather Case
https://www.shapeways.com/product/LEB5A ... d=56223209

3) Audi TT ashtray dock for iPhone 6, 6s and iPhone 7
https://www.shapeways.com/product/LLTYW ... d=43893929

Mic Placement & Audio Quality
I used the mic that was included with the Alpine headunit. I had it installed in roof trim just above where the the rear view mirror is mounted with the mic subtly pointing at the driver. It's very discreet and subtle and picks up my voice well even at high speeds. I've had people report it sounds clear when I make a call.

Regarding audio quality, the difference in sound compared to stock is very noticeable and makes the speakers really come alive even in my non BOSE car. This is especially noticeable at higher volume.

Audio Loom / Adapters I Used
The looms and fascia I used were from a company called 'Enfig' based in the USA. They were able to supply me all the correct looms and fascia to fit my alpine ILX-700 unit and ship them to in good time. I was also able to keep the steering wheel controls with the additional box they supply which works flawlessly, not one wire was cut. Check out this page and the picture below of the different wiring looms used - these references are all taken from the Vortex forum I linked earlier:
https://enfigcarstereo.com/RADIO_AUDI_TT_07.html


Some Photo's of the ILX-700 Installed
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Some general feedback I've found using the ILX-700:

Positives
- Sirri works really well and you can do pretty much anything without pressing a button when you say "Hey Sirri". You can ask it it do some useful things such as "play a song by xx" or "call xx" "check my calendar / messages" "what's the weather / news" or "navigate to the nearest Starbucks" etc ... Thought it was a gimmick at first but I actually use it a lot.
- Good clear screen and good size
- Touchscreen works well easy to scroll
- Supports Waze which means all the latest alerts when driving including Speed Cameras! :mrgreen:
- Integrates perfectly with MFI if you purchase the correct loom enabling you to terminate calls, skip tracks, control volume all from the steering wheel controls. You have to use the correct looms to achieve this and mine were all from http://enfigcarstereo.com - worth the extra ££ compared to cheaper branded looms in my opinion.
- Fast enough boot up time and hardly any delays in switching between apps
- Fully customisable splash screen and I have created my own Audi one
- Greatly improves audio quality over the standard 'Concert' OEM head unit especially in the bass / clarity department using standard speakers
- Radio reception is very clear using correct Enfig booster and no loss in quality. In fact I'd say it's better than before!

Negatives
- Doesn't integrate with DIS
- Only works with iPhone's which have to be plugged in hence why I went for the integrated dock
- Radio isn't DAB (but still good enough in my opinion and you can use BBC iPlayer for DAB stations if desired)
- Can't change the button illumination colour to OEM red - white only
- No Bluetooth on the unit, an iPhone must be connected to make & receive calls
- Currently no 'Torque' app support which can be used to check engine fault codes etc

Hope this helps when making a decision on what's out their. As you can probably tell I'm more than pleased with my Alpine headunit which really helps modernise the whole experience compared to the original unit :)
Thankyou for you for sharing your splash screen been the only one I found that looks near to oem.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
CurryMan said:
happychappy said:
You're welcome!

Drat and double drat, seems there is no version for an iPhone 8 [smiley=bigcry.gif]
Could be worth sending the chap who designed them a message to see if he has any plans to? His aviator is 'Flux_Capacitor' and you can send him a message using this link: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/flux_capacitor

Keep us posted on what he says and fingers crossed for you.
Hi,

I am the creator of the iPhone CarPlay dock for Audi TT Mk2. Thank you for having contacting me and thank you for your interest in these docks :)

The dock has indeed been designed before the iPhone 8, which is significantly thicker and wider than previous versions due to wireless charging and the glass back plate. So sadly it is not very compatible with the current dock sold through Shapeways. It would severely scrape sliding in or out of the dock, the side buttons would collide, etc.

But FYI I am currently designing a whole new 2019 lineup, and to begin with, the main dock will be compatible with the iPhone 8 as asked! This new dock will actually be compatible with the iPhone 6, 6s, 7 and 8. Launched alongside with this one, a second model for the iPhone 5/5s/SE will also be available simultaneously.

Due to the limited width of the TT ashtray compartment, I won't be able to provide a compatible dock for wider iPhone models like Plus and Max versions, sorry. Stay tuned however for a potential solution fitting iPhone X and XS… I still don't know if I can fit them, but if it is possible, I will release a CarPlay dock for them too!

Why a second model for the iPhone 5/5s/SE you may wonder? In fact all these 2019 docks will not use the recently discontinued expensive Apple Lightning to 30-pin adapter anymore. And subsequently, you won't have to get an old Apple or 3rd-party MFi 30-pin to USB cable neither (both of which you had to buy separately till now) so this should cut the bill by about £30 or even more. Instead, 2019 docks will rely on a more modern USB Type-C connector. All you'll have to buy is a much more affordable USB-A to USB-C cable (whatever brand it is - Apple or not - e.g. Amazon sells one-meter cables for just a few bucks).

I will choose one of the two following possibilities to distribute these new docks worldwide:

- Either Shapeways again, which would produce and distribute them. In this case you will have to buy the right Lighting to USB-C adapter separately and glue it on your own, as well as spray-paint the white plastic in black to give the product an OEM look that will be elegant and well integrated in your Audi TT.

- Or eBay. I will choose this option if I can produce the docks by myself. Three benefits with this solution: 1) for me to start with, Shapeways would not get 75-80% of the profit, I would; 2) you would get a USB-C connector for free already built-in into the dock and fully tested, without the need to buy and glue one; and 3) the dock would already come in a black hard and durable ABS plastic, you would not have to spray-paint it anymore, which can be a tedious process.

I will let you know when and where these new solutions are available (by the end of January I hope, or maybe early February 2019).

Happy new year to you all!

FC
 
Hi Flux_capacitor

Thanks so much for popping in and bringing such great news, I eagerly await your finished product.

A friend made a dock for a Volvo but it was a sit on not a slide in type of mount and so therefore wiggled and wobbled around over speed humps/pot holes etc.

Your dock eliminate this, hence my interest

Thanks once again.
 
flux_capacitor said:
CurryMan said:
happychappy said:
You're welcome!

Drat and double drat, seems there is no version for an iPhone 8 [smiley=bigcry.gif]
Could be worth sending the chap who designed them a message to see if he has any plans to? His aviator is 'Flux_Capacitor' and you can send him a message using this link: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/flux_capacitor

Keep us posted on what he says and fingers crossed for you.
Hi,

I am the creator of the iPhone CarPlay dock for Audi TT Mk2. Thank you for having contacting me and thank you for your interest in these docks :)

The dock has indeed been designed before the iPhone 8, which is significantly thicker and wider than previous versions due to wireless charging and the glass back plate. So sadly it is not very compatible with the current dock sold through Shapeways. It would severely scrape sliding in or out of the dock, the side buttons would collide, etc.

But FYI I am currently designing a whole new 2019 lineup, and to begin with, the main dock will be compatible with the iPhone 8 as asked! This new dock will actually be compatible with the iPhone 6, 6s, 7 and 8. Launched alongside with this one, a second model for the iPhone 5/5s/SE will also be available simultaneously.

Due to the limited width of the TT ashtray compartment, I won't be able to provide a compatible dock for wider iPhone models like Plus and Max versions, sorry. Stay tuned however for a potential solution fitting iPhone X and XS… I still don't know if I can fit them, but if it is possible, I will release a CarPlay dock for them too!

Why a second model for the iPhone 5/5s/SE you may wonder? In fact all these 2019 docks will not use the recently discontinued expensive Apple Lightning to 30-pin adapter anymore. And subsequently, you won't have to get an old Apple or 3rd-party MFi 30-pin to USB cable neither (both of which you had to buy separately till now) so this should cut the bill by about £30 or even more. Instead, 2019 docks will rely on a more modern USB Type-C connector. All you'll have to buy is a much more affordable USB-A to USB-C cable (whatever brand it is - Apple or not - e.g. Amazon sells one-meter cables for just a few bucks).

I will choose one of the two following possibilities to distribute these new docks worldwide:

- Either Shapeways again, which would produce and distribute them. In this case you will have to buy the right Lighting to USB-C adapter separately and glue it on your own, as well as spray-paint the white plastic in black to give the product an OEM look that will be elegant and well integrated in your Audi TT.

- Or eBay. I will choose this option if I can produce the docks by myself. Three benefits with this solution: 1) for me to start with, Shapeways would not get 75-80% of the profit, I would; 2) you would get a USB-C connector for free already built-in into the dock and fully tested, without the need to buy and glue one; and 3) the dock would already come in a black hard and durable ABS plastic, you would not have to spray-paint it anymore, which can be a tedious process.

I will let you know when and where these new solutions are available (by the end of January I hope, or maybe early February 2019).

Happy new year to you all!

FC
Great to see you on here FC! Thanks for the detailed update, that's great news which allows me to upgrade my iPhone if I choose to now.

Look forward to seeing the new range and I'm sure other iPhone owners here may be interested too. :)
 
Umoxya said:
That was an interesting read from page 1 great info.
Has anyone tried the newer android 8.1 xtron units? Was wondering if the poor sound quality has been addressed.
I have the PB78ATTRP running Android 8.0 and have to say that the sound quality is great. I couldn't comment on previous versions but would assume the sound quality from the 8.0 would also apply to the 8.1 OS. You can always download an equaliser from the Play Store to help with the sounds dynamics too
 
SuperShires said:
JFidddy said:
Hi,

Can anyone recommend a unit, for an 08 TTS with Bose.

Requirements are that audio quality must stay the same or improve, I'm not willing to downgrade.
Bluetooth with steering wheel controls and song data.
Map search by full postcode.
I fitted the Pioneer SPH-DA130DAB last Saturday.

Get the Connects2 CTKAU03 Kit:
https://goo.gl/U2t1oi
(choose the CTMULTILEAD.2 if you are buying a Pioneer unit)

You might need this Antenna Adapter like I did:
https://goo.gl/jHtWL5

I bought the Pioneer SPH-DA130DAB:
https://goo.gl/RA1K6M

I'm really impressed with the Pioneer unit, Bluetooth works amazingly, it has CarPlay so I routed a Lightning cable through the glove box where the old iPod cable that comes with the OEM stereo comes out at the little hole in the back of the glove box (if you do this you will need to remove the glove box)
Steering wheel controls work great, just an overall solid improvement from the standard stereo.

Audio quality is vastly improved from the standard head unit IMO. Sounds much louder and clearer. Looks clean thanks to the unit not having any buttons and its all touchscreen.

I made sure it had CarPlay so I can plug my iPhone in and use the Maps on the phone, rather than the head unit itself having GPS. This is why I decided to route the Lightning cable through the hole in the glove box so that when I do need to use SatNav I just plug my phone in and use the phones SatNav.

Overall it set me back £350~ as I bought the Pioneer unit for £280 but I fitted it myself with help from a mate who works at a Kwikfit. (though I'm buying him a few pints for his help :lol:)
Supershires I presume I won't need the antenna adaptor as I have bought a dab antenna ?
Getting the fitting done by Halfords which isn't ideal as I have read a fair few bad reviews ref fitting and attitude when problems are brought to their attention but I just don't have the time to do it myself .

Only problem is I ordered and paid for it all on 15 Jan and I am still waiting for a call ref the steering wheel controls being delivered to store but I am in no huge rush now as I have to wait for the ashtray dock which after looking at the video of it I couldn't resist but will spray it myself black.
How is your experience after using it for a while since your review?
 
SuperShires said:
JFidddy said:
Hi,

Can anyone recommend a unit, for an 08 TTS with Bose.

Requirements are that audio quality must stay the same or improve, I'm not willing to downgrade.
Bluetooth with steering wheel controls and song data.
Map search by full postcode.
I fitted the Pioneer SPH-DA130DAB last Saturday.

Get the Connects2 CTKAU03 Kit:
https://goo.gl/U2t1oi
(choose the CTMULTILEAD.2 if you are buying a Pioneer unit)

You might need this Antenna Adapter like I did:
https://goo.gl/jHtWL5

I bought the Pioneer SPH-DA130DAB:
https://goo.gl/RA1K6M

I'm really impressed with the Pioneer unit, Bluetooth works amazingly, it has CarPlay so I routed a Lightning cable through the glove box where the old iPod cable that comes with the OEM stereo comes out at the little hole in the back of the glove box (if you do this you will need to remove the glove box)
Steering wheel controls work great, just an overall solid improvement from the standard stereo.

Audio quality is vastly improved from the standard head unit IMO. Sounds much louder and clearer. Looks clean thanks to the unit not having any buttons and its all touchscreen.

I made sure it had CarPlay so I can plug my iPhone in and use the Maps on the phone, rather than the head unit itself having GPS. This is why I decided to route the Lightning cable through the hole in the glove box so that when I do need to use SatNav I just plug my phone in and use the phones SatNav.

Overall it set me back £350~ as I bought the Pioneer unit for £280 but I fitted it myself with help from a mate who works at a Kwikfit. (though I'm buying him a few pints for his help :lol:)
what connectors are required for a non Bose unit?
 
Jsimba said:
I have the PB78ATTRP running Android 8.0 and have to say that the sound quality is great. I couldn't comment on previous versions but would assume the sound quality from the 8.0 would also apply to the 8.1 OS. You can always download an equaliser from the Play Store to help with the sounds dynamics too
Do you have a BOSE system in you car?
 
MarkyMark66 said:
This is not a problem with the dock but Just a quick heads up for people who purchase one of these.

This was my experience and I may just be really really unlucky.

The T shaped connector I purchased when I bought this for my TT worked fine but I used glue that ultimately wasn't strong enough(not superglue) and it came loose so I removed the connector which I managed to damage and the excess glue.

Long story short, I have so far had to purchase 6 of these connectors from eBay and amazon non of which would connect to my head unit but would charge the phone(tested them before attempting to fit properly with glue)

I eventually purchased the larger connector which your cable to your head unit has to plug in at the bottom BUT I had to modify the dock by cutting off one of the sides that you wedge the connector into then glue in place.

Because the connector from the head unit connects at the bottom and not the side the sound proofing sponge needs removing directly below the dock when its fitted as the cable/connection now goes too far down and has prevented it going all the way down.

This is not intended to put people off the dock as I love it but Like I said I may just be really unlucky but thought I should let people know my experience.

Just
 
Jonah67red said:
MarkyMark66 said:
This is not a problem with the dock but Just a quick heads up for people who purchase one of these.

This was my experience and I may just be really really unlucky.

The T shaped connector I purchased when I bought this for my TT worked fine but I used glue that ultimately wasn't strong enough(not superglue) and it came loose so I removed the connector which I managed to damage and the excess glue.

Long story short, I have so far had to purchase 6 of these connectors from eBay and amazon non of which would connect to my head unit but would charge the phone(tested them before attempting to fit properly with glue)

I eventually purchased the larger connector which your cable to your head unit has to plug in at the bottom BUT I had to modify the dock by cutting off one of the sides that you wedge the connector into then glue in place.

Because the connector from the head unit connects at the bottom and not the side the sound proofing sponge needs removing directly below the dock when its fitted as the cable/connection now goes too far down and has prevented it going all the way down.

This is not intended to put people off the dock as I love it but Like I said I may just be really unlucky but thought I should let people know my experience.
Always good to know about peoples experiences, can never have too much info [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
 
Hi all.. Re "shapeways" "Carplaydok" ...question is : will the apple carplay work on any aftermarket android unit after install ?
Appreciate your comments and particularly creator's views and recommendations .Thank you :)
 
pashkito said:
Hi all.. Re "shapeways" "Carplaydok" ...question is : will the apple carplay work on any aftermarket android unit after install ?
Appreciate your comments and particularly creator's views and recommendations .Thank you :)
If the unit you are buying has apple car play installed and you have an Iphone then yes.
The dock is just a better way and tidy way of connecting to your head unit via a USB cable as if you don't have car play on the head unit I presume it will still charge your phone but I'm not tech savvy ref any other use with a non car play enabled units what if any extra functionality you will get linking your phone to the head unit via a USB besides charging it the head unit manual/instructions should tell you.
 
Thanks ..in other words if I try connecting my iPhone to the Android USB and there is not apple "carplay" when the iPhone does not replicate on my unit's screen.. then I might need an auxiliary interface to allow the apple "carplay" functions including "siri" etc.. found this maybe it should work :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vaugan-Android ... way&sr=8-9
 

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pashkito said:
Thanks ..in other words if I try connecting my iPhone to the Android USB and there is not apple "carplay" when the iPhone does not replicate on my unit's screen.. then I might need an auxiliary interface to allow the apple "carplay" functions including "siri" etc.. found this maybe it should work :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vaugan-Android ... way&sr=8-9
Good find, if you go down that route remember to post your experience on here as I'm sure there will probably be a few more that would be interested in how you get on
 
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