[pashkito]

Hi,
Sure was about to post the Apple dock and CarPlay:

 

[chriscapon]

Ended up installing the Xtrons to my new TTS. So far it's been amazing. Easy install and pairs to my phones hot spot automatically on turn on. Even have OK Google integration on every screen to control Spotify and maps with voice commands. Highly recommend. Reverse cam to be installed on the next warm day

 

[Dash]

pashkito, what's it like in terms of audio performance? Any improvement on OEM/Bose etc? Primary function of a head unit after all!

 

[pashkito]

Hi,
As advertised, the " DSP Sound in the N7 PRO head units use high-resolution Burr-Brown 24-Bit Digital to Analogue conversion allowing for clean, accurate, stunning sound reproduction ". Compared to the OEM, I Personally believe the sound is definitely good by all means.

 

[IPG3.6]

Hi,
As advertised, the " DSP Sound in the N7 PRO head units use high-resolution Burr-Brown 24-Bit Digital to Analogue conversion allowing for clean, accurate, stunning sound reproduction ". Compared to the OEM, I Personally believe the sound is definitely good by all means.

Aside from the bad marketing speil. I can see there's treble , mid , bass and sub control. Also fade and balance. Standard.

What audio controls do you actually have? What are the RCA's rated at? Is there an EQ? How many bands? What about crossovers or time alignment?

 

[pashkito]

you can check all the features in the links below :
https://dynavindirect.co.uk/select-your ... cba1185463
http://www.dynavin.com/products/n7_tt.php

 

[happychappy]

Hi,
As advertised, the " DSP Sound in the N7 PRO head units use high-resolution Burr-Brown 24-Bit Digital to Analogue conversion allowing for clean, accurate, stunning sound reproduction ". Compared to the OEM, I Personally believe the sound is definitely good by all means.

Aside from the bad marketing speil. I can see there's treble , mid , bass and sub control. Also fade and balance. Standard.

What audio controls do you actually have? What are the RCA's rated at? Is there an EQ? How many bands? What about crossovers or time alignment?

Looks like 4v pre outs and a 9 Band graphic equaliser.

I can't see any crossovers or TA.

Have I missed them?

 

[IPG3.6]

Looks like it's got time alignment too

 

[Hammer'd]

Only thing I'm concerned about is that I don't have a Bose system. And these things say they require wiring changes without. But I've also read mixed info that they work just fine even without Bose.

I can comfirm it does work with non-Bose as I've just installed one in my TT tonight. Bit of a git to get in so that it fitted correctly. Just be careful though as when I got mine installed first, the rear speakers wouldn't work. Taking it out was more of a pain than anything and the pins you get from Xtrons are awful, if you're not careful you end up slicing up your fingers as they have unfiled edges so cut you. Anyway, I think the pins of the connector block on the Xtrons aren't great as I was constantly jigging the connector to try and get a better connection. Just keep pushing and jiggling and eventually it fits better. Sound quality is good, although it doesn't seem to be very loud (even with adjusting the equaliser), so I'm investigating if there's anything that can be done to increase it further. Next up will be the 4G modem and reversing cam.

 

[beberobu]

Simes, i am after a head unit like this, but... can you shade a light to us please, have this unit WiF module?
I see have a plenty of internet apps but, despite ive searched in lots specs, i didnt find anything about how to connect it to internet.
My fav way is to do hotspot over the phone, so, in order for that is necessary the head unit to have wifi. I may be wrong but as i know the hotspot can be made over the wi-fi module, not the bt module.
Is this unit able to connect over phone hotspot?
Cheers,
Vas

I have just finished installing a Kenwood DMX7017DABS head unit in my TT Mk2. It works and I installed it as a first-timer in about a day. Much of that day was spent researching how to do it. This TT forum was very helpful so here are some notes for fellow beginners in return.
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[ADB]

Simes, i am after a head unit like this, but... can you shade a light to us please, have this unit WiF module?
I see have a plenty of internet apps but, despite ive searched in lots specs, i didnt find anything about how to connect it to internet.
My fav way is to do hotspot over the phone, so, in order for that is necessary the head unit to have wifi. I may be wrong but as i know the hotspot can be made over the wi-fi module, not the bt module.
Is this unit able to connect over phone hotspot?
Cheers,
Vas

I don't think any of these head units DON'T have WiFi. They are usually 2.4GHz 802.11N (WiFi4) so not fantastic speeds (72Mbps max) but if you are just tethering over WiFi that's not a big issue I guess.

 

[beberobu]

Yep, true!
Sorted in the meantime. Bought a Xtrons Audi TT build, android with everything. The only problem is it came with TPMS with external sensors which i dont like them and i tried to fit other android usb tpms systems (with internal sensors) but without success so far.
Cheers!

I don't think any of these head units DON'T have WiFi. They are usually 2.4GHz 802.11N (WiFi4) so not fantastic speeds (72Mbps max) but if you are just tethering over WiFi that's not a big issue I guess.

 

[simestt]

Simes, i am after a head unit like this, but... can you shade a light to us please, have this unit WiF module?
I see have a plenty of internet apps but, despite ive searched in lots specs, i didnt find anything about how to connect it to internet.
My fav way is to do hotspot over the phone, so, in order for that is necessary the head unit to have wifi. I may be wrong but as i know the hotspot can be made over the wi-fi module, not the bt module.
Is this unit able to connect over phone hotspot?
Cheers,
Vas

I have just finished installing a Kenwood DMX7017DABS head unit in my TT Mk2. It works and I installed it as a first-timer in about a day. Much of that day was spent researching how to do it. This TT forum was very helpful so here are some notes for fellow beginners in return.
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Hi beberobu,
I've only just seen your note, so sorry if my reply is too late to help you, but it may help others. The Kenwood DMX7017DABS that I used in my Mk2 does not have wi-fi / hotspot support. You connect your phone to it by USB cable to provide the internet connection. i installed a USB socket in the console near the handbrake for this and the phone sat in the tray behind the handbrake. It is more than two years since I installed the Kenwood so maybe it is no longer a current model. I liked it, though.

 

[idbpalacei]

Make - Kenwwod
Model - DMX8019DABS
Fitted - 3 July 2020

Hi all
After a couple of years going backwards and forwards about whether to replace the old Nav Plus i`ve taken the plunge and had the above unit installed. It was a bit of a love hate relationship with the NP but after a couple of days ownership of the Kenwood i`m glad i`ve done it.

Thanks so much to the guys at Sounds Alarming in Welling , Kent for all there advice and knowledge. Only slight issue during fitting was the BOSE amp on my TTS needed a slightly different connection as first thought but once that was sorted it was a pretty straightforward fit.

They also fitted a reverse camera , DAB aerial and new microphone at the same time as the unit itself.

A lot more to learn but a few of the bullet points after a couple days ownership.

Everything syncing with my Samsung S10 phone. All wireless including mobile mirroring so i have my little tablet including playing Prime , Netflix and I Player etc. Sound is definitely upgraded with lots of options. Maps via Android Auto is great as well as other mapping options. One of the things i was concerned about was the look and potentially spoiling the OEM look but i think it slots in nicely.

As i say early days but impressed so far. Any questions feel free to ask.

Cheers
Ian

 

[Dash]

How does it sound?

 

[idbpalacei]

Yes it sounds great. I`m not an expert or want perfection but it s much better imho

 

[andy mac]

NEW KIT!
First a little montage of my old kit, which was installed by a butcher by the looks and sound of things - Bose amp ripped out, harnesses spliced into, speakers wired left to right at the rear (and vice-versa), out of phase on one speaker... at the front, only the bass was working on the left and only mid/treble on the right.
Also, the Xtrons head unit was wedged in with polystyrene. It was an utter disaster.

Now for the good stuff. I found a guy who came highly recommended and was only 12 miles away, looked at his previous installs... and decided to go for it. He does a lot of really high end stuff and mine was probably the cheapest he'd done in a while, but the results are brilliant.

Head Unit - Pioneer SPH-250DAB
Amplifier - HERTZ HCP4
Speakers - JL Audio C5 two-way components (Woofer/mid combo unit in original lower door position, tweeters in original dash top position)
I'm still using the Bose units at the rear for a bit of "fill", but the soundfield is biased very much towards the front.

Subwoofer to be decided on once I decide where (and if!) I want it - I'd really like stealth, i.e. not on show anywhere so it's tricky placement-wise.

He's promised to send me pics of the install that I asked him to take for me. Coming soon. *Update, see post below*

In the meantime, here's what I have now:

No pictures of my actual speakers (will add them when I get them) but I now have these:

I picked the car up yesterday - while I was backing out an Aston DB9 was arriving for a complete install, including a £5,000 amp
I drove home with a big grin on my face via one of my favourite roads - The Cat and Fiddle in Derbyshire (the installer is in Macclesfield) with a playlist of my favourite system-testing tunes, a real eclectic mix but all of them really put one or more aspects of a system through its paces. Followed by Dark Side of The Moon, just because.

What a transformation. Even if the BOSE system had been intact and correctly wired, it would never have sounded this good.
Crystal clear, fast, expansive... just think of all the superlatives and you'll be about right.
Bottom end left me questioning if I actually need a sub - nice and deep and tight... amazing considering the drivers are 6.5" units.

It wasn't cheap (to me anyway) but I'm very very happy.
In addition to the new hardware, all the wiring was tidied up, the doors lined with Dynamat, amp firmly secured to the space saver wheel compartment, everything as it should be.

There was already a reversing camera hooked up to the Xtrons, so that was reused and works fine.
The old microphone was junked as Pioneer supply one with the unit.

Now, on to the head unit performance. It's really taking some getting used to - I've never had Airplay before and that's a revelation when used with Siri ... which, again, I've never bothered with before... it's wizardry! I asked the lady to play some Bowie and she did. :mrgreen:

Had some teething problems with a USB drive (I couldn't decide whether to use my Iphone all the time or play files from a USB stick so I tried both). It was working fine. And then it wasn't. A quick repair using my PCs drive tools seemed to sort it out.

There's no disc drive in the SPH250, so I have to rely on USB or Airplay.

I had more issues trying to set a custom background picture (I've got a separate thread about that so I won't bore you here). I'm sure it'll be ok once I get used to it, the menus aren't that intuitive and it seems rather fussy about which pictures it can display.

Pleased to say DAB reception is really good with a nice small discreet windscreen aerial.

In my opinion, the HU looks superb. I thought I'd miss the buttons, but with steering wheel controls and Siri it's great.
I love the minimal look.

More pictures to follow but those are my initial thoughts.

 

[andy mac]

As promised some pics taken during the install.

First the scene of all that wiring carnage, tidied up and crossovers put in place.

Tweeters, perfect fit once the casings were removed.

Out with the old....

...in with the new...

...and another pic of the Pioneer

 

[IPG3.6]

NEW KIT!
Bose amp ripped out, harnesses spliced into, speakers wired left to right at the rear (and vice-versa), out of phase on one speaker... at the front, only the bass was working on the left and only mid/treble on the right.

This is definitely the best way to go about it!!! I did this on mine as it saves you having to run more wiring in the car/stripping out the interior - the twisted pairs also mean they're "shielded" from other signals.

Install looks great and hope you enjoy the upgraded audio bliss 8)

 

[andy mac]

NEW KIT!
Bose amp ripped out, harnesses spliced into, speakers wired left to right at the rear (and vice-versa), out of phase on one speaker... at the front, only the bass was working on the left and only mid/treble on the right.

This is definitely the best way to go about it!!! I did this on mine as it saves you having to run more wiring in the car/stripping out the interior - the twisted pairs also mean they're "shielded" from other signals.

Install looks great and hope you enjoy the upgraded audio bliss 8)

Thanks
I didn't have a problem with whoever did the old install using some of the existing harness; as you pointed out it's the logical way to do things. It's just the way it was done... messily and incorrectly