[ReTTro fit]

Removing a rns-e to fit a xtron ???
To gain what ??

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RNS-E is very outdated now. I don't use the sat nav as only 4-digit postcode entry, the maps are expensive and its just very clunky entering stuff plus I have the older model which only supports 2GB SD cards which is very frustrating. Also not able to stream bluetooth music from phone. I use my phone for sat nav and i have a choice of what app to use - i usually use Google maps/Here...
I've had my TTS for over 5 years now and feel it just needs modernising inside - and no I can't afford a MK3!

I have rns-e with full 7 digit postcode entry, I also have full SDS so I can just tell it the postcode
Tune2air module on my Ami unit allows full streaming of music etc

Agreed it was quiet expensive to do it all but I wanted to stay oem just to show it could all be done for when I was retro fitting stuff for people

If i was to go aftermarket I'd be going for something like the pioneer / carplay unit

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[Dino_Donis]

Do you know the maximum MicroSD card size that can be used? can they be filled up?
Is it possible to put a large flash device say 128GB on the end of the USB cable and play all the audio files?

Is the unit supplied with the correct adapter cable to between the loom and new unit?

Did you get the OBDII adapter?

Cheers

 

[anth1234]

Do you know the maximum MicroSD card size that can be used? can they be filled up?
Is it possible to put a large flash device say 128GB on the end of the USB cable and play all the audio files?

Is the unit supplied with the correct adapter cable to between the loom and new unit?

Did you get the OBDII adapter?

Cheers

Hi Dino, I'm sorry I'm unsure... I think it has 16gb on board and two microsd adaptors.

Yes it was entirely plug and play, no need for any wiring (I don't know if it's different for bose). Only things you need to do is snap in the additional USB adaptors if you want them, and cut the reverse camera signal wire if you don't install one.

Yes I bought the OBD adaptor. Torque app was included free with the unit. It's pretty useless for my application but reliable and fun.

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[anth1234]

I'm back with some more pics and information!

So here's a photo of the ELM327 bluetooth adapter by XTRONS. If I remember correctly it was price at around $20AUD. The headunit comes with a few different apps installed. Torque and Dashcommand to name a few, but I seem to have issues connecting to any other app than Torque. Get's stuck saying "Turning Bluetooth On". Seems like a software fault with this version of Android... Works fine with your phone, and torque is OK. Just an issue with some other apps. If anyone can chime in on this issue please do.

Torque is cool, shows things like Coolant temp, Vacuum, Throttle position, RPM, Boost and I believe has the capabilities to install more addons for other variables. It also has a page for 0-100, 1/4 mile, 1/8 mile, total HorsePower etc.

I tried to apply the custom splash screen I posted on the first page... Despite fitting it to XTRONS' specs, it looks poor. Very pixelated and disappointing Back to the Audi animation...

For those of you wanting to tinker with this, go to "Factory Settings" and enter the password '126'.

That's my update for the day... Not sure what apps I should get for it... Would be nice if there was a better interface for spotify, like bigger buttons to press while I'm driving.

 

[Dino_Donis]

Thanks for the update...i think I might buy one

 

[Stealth69]

Manufacturer: XTRONS
Model: PF75ATTA
Purchased: September 2016
Retail Price: £269 with ODBII bluetooth adapter, sign up to XTRON VIP and get 15% off of your first order

Steering wheel integration: Very good. Everything works. The volume scroller works great and pushing in mutes the audio. (I don't have MFW) so can only comment on the volume control

Interface: Pretty good for driving. Looks very smart and is easy to use on the move, the icons are huge and as with any Android device you can customize the screens, move things about etc. It's very slick and very quick with a handy "kill all" rocket to close all apps you have opened whilst dicking around..... like I say it's super speedy and you have no excuse to not have all the things you want where you want them.

Satnav: meh it's on there, all much of a muchness, you just stick the one you know and like on there and off you go.

Media Support: There are two included USB cables which can be installed easily as required by the driver. It snaps into the loom. DAB+ is a separate purchase. A single deck CD/DVD player is installed but all audio formats should be playable. A2DP Bluetooth audio is brilliant with my iPhone, hooked straight up and started streaming direct from Deezer on my phone, easy to control etc but I will be installing Deezer on to the headunit itself to get full functionality and use the IPhone as a hotspot.

Connectivity: Bluetooth is great on this unit, allows me to easily pair a mobile phone and it will communicate with a bluetooth OBD tool simultaneously. The headunit has WIFI which is perfect as I have it downloaded Torque and will get deezer via WIFI. A 3G dongle can be purchased from manufacturer but in this day and age tethering is far easier and cost effective.

Ease of Installation: The removal of the old head unit is a doddle, the fitting of the new headunit and wiring is a doddle, the plugs can and will only go in one hole and one way..... the headunit on the hole however is a bitch, as stated before the top clips in with ease, the bottom..... not so much.... absolute twat.... and yes I did bleed for this bastid!!!

BEFORE YOU INSTALL: (as stated by Anth1234) - Decide whether or not you want a back-up camera, if not you need to cut the back-up camera wire and tape it with electrical tape.Otherwise when you select reverse, the music will mute and the screen will go black with an exclamation mark in the centre.

So how does it stack up?

Fitment: 9/10
Audio Quality (Standard Audio Equipment): 7/10
Functionality and Flexibility: 8/10
Speed and Performance: 8/10 due to the user being required to clear cache regularly.
Overall integration: 10/10 (just because it does everything I am capable of doing)

Total Ranking: 8.5/10

Final Comments: Can be a twat to fit so go in with some patience, the airbag light can be pesky, make sure the clips don't fire off when you remove it from the old headunit. I don't know what everyone is banging on about re: sound quality, it's ok to be fair but then I'm not running Bose so maybe this makes a difference...... no hissing or popping, it's plenty good enough for what I and 90% of the world will need, certainly won't meet the requirements of audiophiles. All in all good purchase and happy with what I got

 

[Dash]

Thanks for the review, seems like the XTRONS units are popular.

 

[Bobo2211]

Stealth69, have you checked the rear speakers? how is the volume of them?

 

[Stealth69]

Stealth69, have you checked the rear speakers? how is the volume of them?

It's ok, first thing I did after reading reviews on the older version is check that, the car fills with sound, I'm not sure it has the depth in frequency the standard unit had, I think I'm missing some bass but I can't be 100% sure as only now had the car a week before changing the headunit and only drove it twice lol

 

[Stealth69]

Deezer on the unit

xtron 5.1 sound

 

[andy318is]

Is the sound of the XTRON really that bad? I've heard the sound using the standard (non-bose) amp isn't good but I'll be upgrading to aftermarket amps & speakers etc...

 

[Stealth69]

Nope the sounds really isn't all that bad to be fair to the unit!

 

[Dino_Donis]

I've just recieved my unit today so will be installing it later..I have RNS-E+Bose+Sub Will be interesting to see how it sounds. I had a quick look in the box and the unit looks quite good and really mirrors the RNS-E original unit but the screen is slightly larger as doesn't need the rotating bezel etc. A couple of guys here where I work have just bought them for other cars and have been impressed...

 

[rajanm1]

I've just recieved my unit today so will be installing it later..I have RNS-E+Bose+Sub Will be interesting to see how it sounds. I had a quick look in the box and the unit looks quite good and really mirrors the RNS-E original unit but the screen is slightly larger as doesn't need the rotating bezel etc. A couple of guys here where I work have just bought them for other cars and have been impressed...

Be interesting to see your thoughts of what it sounds like with bose installed. On a Sony head unit I had there was a constant hummm and it didn't sound great but might pull the trigger if this one's decent enough.

 

[Dieseljuice]

Hi - I'm interested too as wife's TT none Bose is terrible and looks even worse!

Been thinking of RNS-E but is Xtron better?....Which model for year 2013 S-Line TT?

 

[Dino_Donis]

So I just did a temporary install of the Xtron unit in my TTS which has RNS-E + Bose Plus I fitted a removable sub some years ago I have a control for it upfront so I can fine tune the gain, cut off frequency & phase. I've had the TTS for over 5 years so I'm well used to the sound. I was disappointed after I bought the car as I thought that the Bose system lacked really low bass hence why I fitted the sub...
I've only had a quick play so will just summarise my initial thoughts:-
Pros
> The unit looks good both when its on and Off and looks very similar to the RNS-E unit
> The installation was very simple just a case of removing the old unit and connecting up the loom.
> It is very customisable as it runs android. Lots of settings to tweak.
> Lots of connections options, Wifi, Bluetooth (Phone & music streaming),DVD, Aux in, Camera Inputs etc.
> Cheap (£300) compared to RNS-E (£1,800 option).
> Use whatever Sat nav app you like.

Cons
> The sound quality is not as good as the original unit, Its not as rich, less dynamic range especially at the low end. I can tweak it to some extent with the built in equaliser plus my sub controls but I think without a sub the sound would be fairly tinny, fine if you are not into punchy bass but I am
> The Micro SD cards are only SDHC compatible - max of 32GB and won't play SDXC cards. I believe the same is true for the USB but have't tested yet.
> The unit take about 1 minute to boot however there are setting to prevent it from shutting down fully so it comes on straight away if you make a quick stop (programmable up to 2 hours).
> Although supplied with a gps antenna, it would have been good to have been supplied with an adapter to plug the roof one in for better reception.

I plan to fit the unit properly at the weekend so will update after that...I guess my initial thoughts are good however there is a sacrifice on sound quality to have an massive improvement in functionality and features....

 

[Stealth69]

My Bluetooth drops to the phone, not sure why...... may be a distance thing, will try closer...... it never loses connection to the obd2 connector so it's not the unit itself.

Had something odd today in that i was steaming over a2dp then switched to deezer (installed on unit) when I used the steering wheel to ch age track it skipped track on deezer and a2dp and started playing both........ what a freaking noise that was lol

 

[Dino_Donis]

I can't seem to turn the unit on when the ignition is off, I had a look for a setting but can't find it even in the factory settings section. is there a wiring change that I need to do?

 

[Stealth69]

Not sure if mine does or doesn't, will check when I get back to the car this avo........

 

[Dino_Donis]

I'm also having an issue whee if I start the unit up with the engine off and say start music playing with a 3rd party app when I start the engine the unit goes blank for a short while and comes back on but the playback doesn't resume..I have to start it manually....I hope I don't need to resort to putting a big capacitor on the power input!