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NickG said:
You can remove loads of weight quite easily. You're never going to be 205 weight, but you'll have much more power with a few mods!

I've removed 150kg very easily so far;

  • A/C system 16kg
    SAI system 2kg
    Downpipe & Decat 5kg
    FMIC (in lieu of 2xSMIC) 2kg
    Engine plastics 5kg
    Headlight washers deleted 1kg
    Undertray Removed 2kg
    Back seats 20kg
    Parcel shelf 0.5kg
    Front seats 22kg (11kg between only a new each)
    Carpets 11kg
    Head unit 1.5kg
    Head unit surround 1kg
    CD Changer 2.5kg
    Rear Speakers 1kg
    Dash supports 2kg
    Steering Wheel 2kg (difference between old and new)
    Glovebox 2kg
    Rear Plastics & cover 5kg
    Spare wheel & tools 18kg
    Rear Ballast 16kg
    Rear tow hook 2kg
    Tunnel plastics 2kg
    Sound deadening 6kg

Still another 50kg of fairly basic stuff to remove too:

  • Front brake callipers - save 6kg
    Lighter wheels - expect atleast 16kg overall (hopefully more)
    More sound deadening - 4kg
    Ceiling cover - 1kg?
    Door cards - 6kg
    Passenger Airbag - 5kg?
    Lightweight battery - 6kg saving
    Remove OEM backbox - 10kg?

200kg off the car in total will equate to a massive performance gain!! Chin-up and crack on, lets face it, if you wanted a pocket rocket you bought the wrong car, but this will be a very capable track weapon!
Cheers nick , I was gobsmacked mate!!!
I honestly didn't know how heavy the tt is!!!!

I only bought it to be a track car and I do love it , im a bit to long in the tooth for a pocket rocket again so maybe I'll have to dig deep and persevere!!!
 
1200kg isn't an unrealistic target mate, that's what i'm going to be aiming for including a roll cage! (Set the targets high!)(Well, low, but you get what i mean!) :lol:
 
NickG said:
1200kg isn't an unrealistic target mate, that's what i'm going to be aiming for including a roll cage! (Set the targets high!)(Well, low, but you get what i mean!) :lol:
I have been chatting to Rich from Turnpike Racing and thier two.wheel.drive quattro tt coupe is stripped to within an inch of its life and weighs 1200 so I can't see us mere mortals getting down.to.that level as thiers is fully race prepped.
 
The Godbarber said:
NickG said:
1200kg isn't an unrealistic target mate, that's what i'm going to be aiming for including a roll cage! (Set the targets high!)(Well, low, but you get what i mean!) :lol:
I have been chatting to Rich from Turnpike Racing and thier two.wheel.drive quattro tt coupe is stripped to within an inch of its life and weighs 1200 so I can't see us mere mortals getting down.to.that level as thiers is fully race prepped.
Hmmm, that doesn't sound right. :? VT's got a photo on the weighbridge thats 1240kg. He's still got AC, Door cards, Glass Windows among other things!
 
Ha, Ha -- down to 1130 kg in a heavier roadster. It takes some work, but can be done. I have a build thread floating around for what it takes to get serious weight of of this thing. Things like stripping the interior, aluminium exhaust, and removing unnecessary junk like some emission stuff is needed to get there, but it's possible. A coupe can get in the 1,000 lbs with enough work. So the sky is the limit!
 
NickG said:
The Godbarber said:
NickG said:
1200kg isn't an unrealistic target mate, that's what i'm going to be aiming for including a roll cage! (Set the targets high!)(Well, low, but you get what i mean!) :lol:
I have been chatting to Rich from Turnpike Racing and thier two.wheel.drive quattro tt coupe is stripped to within an inch of its life and weighs 1200 so I can't see us mere mortals getting down.to.that level as thiers is fully race prepped.
Hmmm, that doesn't sound right. :? VT's got a photo on the weighbridge thats 1240kg. He's still got AC, Door cards, Glass Windows among other things!
Sorry meant to say that was 1200 with a full tank of fuel and a bloke sitting in it!!!!
 
Madmax199 said:
Ha, Ha -- down to 1130 kg in a heavier roadster. It takes some work, but can be done. I have a build thread floating around for what it takes to get serious weight of of this thing. Things like stripping the interior, aluminium exhaust, and removing unnecessary junk like some emission stuff is needed to get there, but it's possible. A coupe can get in the 1,000 lbs with enough work. So the sky is the limit!
Well , I stand corrected , ive got over the shock of getting done by a 205 now too!!
I will get a 205 track car for wet weather track days so I can have the best of both worlds!!!!!!!!!

So ill persevere for the time being :p
 
Hi, I know this car from coombe, Tony is the driver its blue now but was yellow in a previous post of mine. He has a full cage so probably 100kg, less some 4wd stuff so I would say around the 1050kg as a car.
 
brushwood69 said:
Hi, I know this car from coombe, Tony is the driver its blue now but was yellow in a previous post of mine. He has a full cage so probably 100kg, less some 4wd stuff so I would say around the 1050kg as a car.
There's some good vids on YouTube of him driving!!!!

Cheers
Liam
 
Tony's TT may well be 1200kg with him sat in it and a full tank of fuel, but the car itself is nowhere near 1200kg I can assure you!

Dare I suggest, controversially, that the best way to shed weight on a TT would be to remove the prop, rear diff, and shafts ;)

Tony's TT mentioned above is fairly conclusive proof that you can still have a phenomenal car without them!
 
Prawn said:
Tony's TT may well be 1200kg with him sat in it and a full tank of fuel, but the car itself is nowhere near 1200kg I can assure you!

Dare I suggest, controversially, that the best way to shed weight on a TT would be to remove the prop, rear diff, and shafts ;)

Tony's TT mentioned above is fairly conclusive proof that you can still have a phenomenal car without them!
Don't you start 'n' all!! :lol:
 
NickG said:
Don't you start 'n' all!! :lol:
Haha. Sorry Nick :lol:

Serious question though: are there any FWD based track cars on the forum? Or are all the track builds 225's retaining the haldex?

I know of Lawro's silver TT that's still using the haldex and appears to go very well, and Andys Orange BT TT looks good, but I don't think ive seen any fwd TT track cars aside from Tony's championship winning beast?
 
To be honest, I don't think there's been many full on Track TT's full stop on here until the last 18 months!

Obviously there's a few out there, Max's, Tony's and Andy's as you say, but none have 'complete' build threads on here from what I've seen. Starting to get there though, so I'm hoping the development of different ideas will really pick-up going forward!
 
Prawn said:
Tony's TT may well be 1200kg with him sat in it and a full tank of fuel, but the car itself is nowhere near 1200kg I can assure you!

Dare I suggest, controversially, that the best way to shed weight on a TT would be to remove the prop, rear diff, and shafts ;)

Tony's TT mentioned above is fairly conclusive proof that you can still have a phenomenal car without them!
Very controversial indeed! There is no denying that you can still have a fast and phenomenal FWD track/race car. However, a similarly prepped AWD car will be significantly faster even carrying a weight penalty over the FWD one. There is a reason AWD and FWD/RWD cars are classed differently -- or AWD platforms get a mandatory handicap in open classes. You can't beat gravity and physics, an AWD platform holds an unfair advantage over the other layouts! Don't get me wrong, they can all be fast. But on a levels playing field, AWD wins and will be faster every time!

I like to use this video to remind people what AWD did to the world of racing, and what put Audi on the map:
 
Prawn said:
NickG said:
Don't you start 'n' all!! :lol:
Haha. Sorry Nick :lol:

Serious question though: are there any FWD based track cars on the forum? Or are all the track builds 225's retaining the haldex?

I know of Lawro's silver TT that's still using the haldex and appears to go very well, and Andys Orange BT TT looks good, but I don't think ive seen any fwd TT track cars aside from Tony's championship winning beast?
There are a few here in the US. A friend of mine built a nice 180TT and was very successful with it in NASA (TTB class) racing -- there is also an SCCA STU one that is a converted AWD car. Both are fast, but looking at their times, they're FWD-fast; but not doing times indicative of a fast AWD car (maybe about 1:30 sec behind per lap which is huge).

This is the 180 TT one
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This one is the converted AWD one. It started life as a world challenge AWD car, then got sold and converted to FWD for SCCA STU class.









 
NickG said:
Madmax199 said:
That door bar though! :eek:

Nice and solid!!!
Nascar bar, very effective protection against T bone type crashes at the track. Several US sanctioning bodies mandate one for full wheel-wheel competition.
 
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