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Haldex test via VCDS

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#1 ·
...... I've just replaced the brake switch after VCDS logged a fault on the AWD module mentioning an implausible signal. I used a Febi part that was £8. Driven the car for around 30 miles and rescanned and the fault hasn't come back.

Whilst looking in VCDS I noticed that you can do an Output test on the AWD module so I tried to select this. The first test mentions the charge pump but after that it doesn't do anything. It literally pauses for about 5 minutes and then returns to the previous screen. From looking on YouTube I've seen a few people do the same test and it cycles through a number of the Haldex operations.

I've been through the VCDS measuring blocks and can see the Haldex voltage (12.4v), the temperature, the status of all of the switches, the fact that it's communicating with the ABS and the ECU, and also the status of the pump (which shows as off with the ignition off and on with the ignition on).

It then occurred to me that I have no idea if the Haldex system even works. I've only done about 500 miles in the car since I got it in January. One of the first things I did was to get the Haldex oil and filter changed by a VW specialist. But i've never driven the car in conditions where the wheels would have lost grip so I just don't know if it even works.

Have others been able to do an Output test in VCDS? Or is there another way of me knowing if the Haldex works? I've seen a few people say pull the handbrake on one click to disable the Haldex and then set off quickly to see if I get wheelspin. But I've tried that and I don't seem to get any!

Any advice gratefully received,

Thanks,

Paul.
 
#3 ·

Are you clicking next at each stage of the output test?
I didn't (because I didn't know any better :lol: ) when I first tried doing the test and it didn't do much!
Once I'd realised that you have to click next at every stage I found that the test on my car completed in the exact same way as shown in that YouTube clip.
Rather than using wet grass ( I couldn't get access to any :p ) I found that finding a country lane with plenty of loose gravel on its margins was an easier way to test the Haldex.
 
#4 ·
silverbug said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-wR-xIudM

Are you clicking next at each stage of the output test?
I didn't (because I didn't know any better :lol: ) when I first tried doing the test and it didn't do much!
Once I'd realised that you have to click next at every stage I found that the test on my car completed in the exact same way as shown in that YouTube clip.
Rather than using wet grass ( I couldn't get access to any :p ) I found that finding a country lane with plenty of loose gravel on its margins was an easier way to test the Haldex.
.... this is the same video I found. The weird thing is that when I click on Start/Next it says "Precharge pump off" then when I click Next it just pause for about 5 minutes and then says "Output completed". So I never get to hear the pump operate or the clutch.

So I was looking for a way to validate whether the AWD is working or not. Was thinking about the loose gravel method but have just had some paintwork done ... :(
 
#5 ·
Wilky1974 said:
.... this is the same video I found. The weird thing is that when I click on Start/Next it says "Precharge pump off" then when I click Next it just pause for about 5 minutes and then says "Output completed". So I never get to hear the pump operate or the clutch.

So I was looking for a way to validate whether the AWD is working or not. Was thinking about the loose gravel method but have just had some paintwork done ... :(
Then something is not quite right. When you click 'next' it should move to the next stage and definitely make a whirring noise at 'precharge pump on'.....

You're in the UK, the land of rain :p To test your AWD is working properly without gravel or wet grass or snow, you just need a rainy day and some smooth bitumen road - no paint damage, no burned rubber. From rest, floor it in 1st gear like a drag racer 8)
On wet, smooth bitumen the front wheels will lose traction momentarily and if AWD is operational, you should immediately feel the rear wheels kick in and then the front will also re-gain traction. It's very brief but really obvious - you can't miss it. The first time I did it, I was surprised how quickly the AWD kicks in, after reading so many articles about how crappy the Gen 1 Haldex is [smiley=gossip.gif]

That's the quick way..... the longer, harder method is to put the car up on 4 axle stands (borrow a friend's second set) in your garage. Simply start the car, put it into 2nd gear and very slowly ease the clutch out. All 4 wheels should be turning...
 
#7 ·
...... so I just wanted to give a quick update. VCDS still won't complete an Output Test on the AWD module. It doesn't error or anything just doesn't progress past the 'precharge pump off' test.

I then decided to take some of the advice given here. Drove the car to an area of grass bordered by gravel. Front wheels on the grass, rear on the gravel 2500 RPM and set off. Traction light flashed but car drove forward. Cloud of dust at the rear suggesting the rear wheels had been driven.

I then drove to any area that was total gravel on a slight slope. Again 2500 and set off. Another cloud of dust from the rear tyres and almost an area where the gravel had been dug into by the rear wheels.

On this basis it seems like the Haldex is working. No idea why VCDS won't do a test. There are no faults logged, I can see the voltage temperature, pump status of the Haldex and all seems fine. Just can't get VCDS to do a test.

So in conclusion I am not going to worry about it. When it rains I will take it to a car park that I know which is always really slippy and try the test again. For now I'm just going to put it down to being one of those weird things that I can't explain.

Thanks to everyone for your contributions and advice. Feel a lot better now.

Cheers,

Paul.