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#1 ·
It's coming to winter time and I've done 26k and think it's time for a couple of new tyres...

Ones I got with the car from new are Pirelli P Zero 245/40 ZR 18 83Y.

Dialed it in the google search in the UK and work out about £220 quid each (ouch)

Wondered for another 20 quid is it worth getting same make but 'run-flats'. Anyone out there use them, your comment would be appreciated.

Live in the Surrey area, and am also a bit paranoid about who I get to change them in fear of scratching the 18" alloys...

cheers

Ziggy
 
#3 ·
I have had michelin ps3's fitted recently at 208 a corner [smiley=bigcry.gif] , very impressed with wet grip compared to the pirellis :lol: and they also have more of a lip near alloy wheel edge so giving more protection against kerbs. [smiley=book2.gif]
 
#5 ·
I had run flats on my 3 series BMW, and I would say forget using them they are such a hard ride. I eventually changed the run flats to "normal" tyres, and the ride was so much better! Hope it helps..
 
#6 ·
On my 2.0 FWD, I used to have the Conti Sport Contact 2's which were pretty good. I fancied a change & after much deliberation / research, I went for the Michelin Pilot Sport 3's.
As stated above, the wet grip was a revelation compared to the Conti's, However..... the fronts had to be replaced after
6K miles, only A/B road blasts, no track or motorway.
Changed those for the Goodyear F1 Asymmetric2 which were superb in both wet & dry, had much reduced road noise, were a good bit more compliant in terms of ride stiffness and seemed to be a bit more durable, though I traded it in after 2K miles on those so don't know the full story.
For winter - fit winter tyres.
 
#7 ·
ians-tt said:
I have had michelin ps3's fitted recently at 208 a corner [smiley=bigcry.gif] , very impressed with wet grip compared to the pirellis :lol: and they also have more of a lip near alloy wheel edge so giving more protection against kerbs. [smiley=book2.gif]
Another vote for the PS3s ... recently replaced the PZeros with a set of Michelins and I think the car is much better handling with reduced road noise. Mind you, I'm comparing new PS3s against old PZeros with 17k on them (the front ones almost at legal tread limit) so that might not be totally fair.

I do like the rim protection on the PS3 - the PZeros had nothing at all really. Yet to see if they actually work to protect from minor kerbing.....
 
#8 ·
Ziggytt said:
It's coming to winter time and I've done 26k and think it's time for a couple of new tyres...
...
Wondered for another 20 quid is it worth getting same make but 'run-flats'. y
Can you switch from normal to Run-flats if the car did not come with them? [smiley=book2.gif]

Picked up a Micheline leaflet at ADI, which pointed out that you should put the best tires on the rear (FWD) . Better to have under-steer which most of us can correct than over-steer which most of us can't. I have when replacing just two tires put them on the front, but the recommendation sound valid. Thoughts?
 
#9 ·
TortToise said:
ians-tt said:
I have had michelin ps3's fitted recently at 208 a corner [smiley=bigcry.gif] , very impressed with wet grip compared to the pirellis :lol: and they also have more of a lip near alloy wheel edge so giving more protection against kerbs. [smiley=book2.gif]
Another vote for the PS3s ... recently replaced the PZeros with a set of Michelins and I think the car is much better handling with reduced road noise. Mind you, I'm comparing new PS3s against old PZeros with 17k on them (the front ones almost at legal tread limit) so that might not be totally fair.

I do like the rim protection on the PS3 - the PZeros had nothing at all really. Yet to see if they actually work to protect from minor kerbing.....
From experience, yes they will give a fair bit of protection. I was forced into kerb side by an HGV bombing round a twisty over the white lines. Car bounced off kerb and when checked-no damage to rim.
 
#10 ·
Yes you can change from run flats to normal, even if the car didn't originally come with them as standard. It's also not a "modification", so no need to inform your insurance company either.
 
#11 ·
rob.b said:
Yes you can change from run flats to normal, even if the car didn't originally come with them as standard. It's also not a "modification", so no need to inform your insurance company either.
You should only if you have the tyre pressure monitoring system installed.

If you have a flat or puncture on a normal tyre you will feel it.

On a run flat a you can drive up to 50mph normally you are less likely to feel a problem.

So you drive at 70 for say, the tyre overheats and explodes.

As I've been warned by my tyre specialist, when he found two run flats on the front and normal ones on the back.
 
#12 ·
I certainly never had the tpm on my cars, and I never had a problem. If you have seen a "run flat" after it's gone flat, you would be lucky to drive for 50 miles, no matter what the specialist says.
 
#13 ·
Thanks for all your replies. Goodyear F1's used to have on the GTi which were directional tyres, don't know if they are as good in the wet?
Think a slightly softer ride would be good, have the standard Mk2 so it's not been dropped by 10mm.
Also another important factor would be quieter cos I do a lot of motorway driving and some parts of the M25 have to turn the radio up!
Think I will steer away from the run-flats although don't have the Tyre monitor as an option on the car....
 
#14 ·
My Owners Manual states "Run flat tyres can only be used on vehicles which were already factory-fitted with these tyres and which also must have a TPM system. ... If you change the tyres on your vehicle from regular to run flat or vice versa the control unit must be reprogrammed..." [smiley=book2.gif]

Is there any physical difference in the alloys to support RFT, or is it just the control unit programmer and TPM that matters? :roll:
 
#16 ·
Even though I am many months away from needing new summer tires, I already know precisely what I'll buy:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... e=Michelin

They come highly rated. I realize that many of the people that review tires on websites like this report how wonderful the tires are after replacing worn out ones, and thus automatically assume the tire technology is superior. However, this tire does appear to stand out from the crowd. But if that's all I have to go by, then so be it. In contrast, there are many reported complaints with the Continental Conti's that make me want to avoid them.
 
#17 ·
MoreGooderTT said:
Even though I am many months away from needing new summer tires, I already know precisely what I'll buy:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... e=Michelin

They come highly rated. I realize that many of the people that review tires on websites like this report how wonderful the tires are after replacing worn out ones, and thus automatically assume the tire technology is superior. However, this tire does appear to stand out from the crowd. But if that's all I have to go by, then so be it. In contrast, there are many reported complaints with the Continental Conti's that make me want to avoid them.
As I said on another thread, new Goodyear F1 are well worth a look too.