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Where to Measure Low-Side Fuel Pressure Spec and Actual for TTRS

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#1 · (Edited)
I have a low pressure fuel regulation fault (VCDS scan below). I replaced the fuel filter and low pressure sensor, but still have the fault. I naturally suspect the low pressure pump next, but before I replaced it I wanted to verify that the pressure was actually low. However - while I found the measurement blocks for specified and actual fuel rail pressure, I couldn't find the specified low pressure. I though I found the actual low pressure, but it's so low as to be unbelievable.

I logged "Current - Fuel Pressure" (103-0), spec/actual fuel rail pressure (106-2, 106-0) and "Electric - Fuel Pump 1/2 Load" (106-1) while driving around a bit and pushing the car to redline. Spec and actual rail pressure tracked very closely, ranging from 23bar at idle to 136bar at WOT, and pump duty cycle (I think that's what it is...) stayed between 50% and 60%, except under WOT when it peaked at 82.4%. The weird thing is that the low pressure stayed stuck at 0.23 bar.

Is it possible that the high pressure pump could have performed as well as it did with that little inlet pressure? Or am I measuring the wrong thing? I couldn't find another measurement in the Advanced Measurement blocks that looked like low side fuel pressure.

VCDS Scan:

Address 01: Engine Labels: 07K-907-404-CEP.clb
Control Module Part Number: 8J0 907 404 R HW: 8J0 907 404 M
Component and/or Version: 2.5l R5/4V TFSI 02 0070
Software Coding: 0113000A180F0160
Work Shop Code: WSC 01236 785 00200
VCID: 3C21359BBA6173CA92B-8069
1 Fault Found:

012555 - Low Pressure Fuel regulation
P310B - 002 - Fuel Pressure Outside Specification - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 96650 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2025.09.21
Time: 16:42:25

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1192 /min
Load: 20.4 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 93.0°C
Temperature: 60.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 800.0 mbar
Voltage: 14.224 V
 
Discussion starter · #2 ·
I will add that at idle, the pump duty cycle is just under 50% - like 47% or so. If the 0.23bar is real, wouldn't the low pressure pump be pushing harder to try to bring that up? Or is it driven by the high pressure measurement - meaning that when the high pressure pump needs to pull more the low pressure pump pushes harder? I'm just puzzled as to how the car can drive "normally" with what looks like practically now fuel pressure on the low pressure side. If it weren't an expensive part, I'd just swap out the pump to see if the problem went away.
 
Discussion starter · #4 ·
Whoops - yes, the low pressure sensor. #2 in the diagram. I replaced that with an actual Audi OE part. The fact that the engine doesn't seem to struggle does seem to point to a sensor problem. So since I've replaced the sensor, maybe it's a wiring issue. I'm going to see if I can rig up a way to check the sensor voltage while the engine is running.
 
Discussion starter · #5 ·
It may be worth noting that I replaced the fuel filter and sensor at the same time. So if the filter was actually the problem, and the replacement sensor was "bad", then that could explain this. But the likelihood of getting a bad sensor strikes me as extremely low. I haven't tried swapping the original sensor back in yet.
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
SOOOOO.... I disconnected the new sensor and plugged in the old one out in the open air. Turned on the ignition but didn't start the car: block 103-0 reads 1bar. As it should in atmosphere. I plugged the harness back into the sensor on the engine - still without starting it - and it read 4.5bar, which is where it should be. Started the engine and it dropped to about 2.6bar with duty cycle running at 70%. Listening carefully, I could hear the fuel pump screaming quietly beneath the back seat.

The pump is clearly bad - so I'll be ordering a new one.I'll report back when that's been replaced.
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
The pressure regulator for the low pressure side is built in to the fuel filter, as I understand it. Is there another low pressure regulator at the engine? Or are you talking about one on the high pressure side? I haven't messed with anything over there since the pressures on the fuel rail seem to make sense and track the command from the ECU.
 
Discussion starter · #10 ·
There could be a regulator there - and I definitely welcome the brainstorming! There's surprisingly little general knowledge about the 2.5L TFSI engine out there in the TT community, and the diagrams on the Audi parts website, the repair manuals, and LLLparts are not especially useful. This diagram from the self study guide for the engine doesn't show a regulator, but that doesn't mean there isn't one:

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Since I actually heard the pump straining this time, it's now my #1 suspect. I know that noise because I installed the wrong fuel filter in my TT 3.2 several years ago and forced the fuel pump to work hard. If the pump doesn't fix the problem, I'll be looking for another low pressure regulator next.